Rumper Room

An endless open thread for registered members of Rumproast.  Newest comments appear at the top (150 per page), so read from the bottom if you need to catch up.

AltHippo—Ye Gods!  It’s like Ayn Rand thought she was a playwright and started a mediocre weblog!

Thanks Kev! I just added those two vid’s I have a lot more pictures and quotes to add before it’s ready.

I believe in free speech.  Really, I do.  But, is there some way to get madamab to stop writing her playlets?

OBAMA: Nah, nah, it’s not about that. This is something even MORE serious. (standing up and pacing) People are accusing me of thinking small on health care just because my entire plan consists of computerizing medical records! I mean, what do they want, single-payer health care or something? I never, EVER said I was going to do anything like that!

Her writing is to dramaturgy what the bagpipe is to a choral symphony.

#####, great idea.  Lemme know when you want me to add it to the blogroll.  Regarding video fails, here are a few that come to mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vUUl8RIyjw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE13Zb0ejco

Thanks Mrs. Polly, the site is a work in progress right now. I wanted the graphics to reflect what I thought of the PUMAS, all mashed up and disorganized. As I add videos and pictures the background will become less of an issue but since there is little there it kinda takes over. I absolutely love your puma guide and I wish you would publish it in book form, I would definitely leave it on my coffee table for visitors to read and discuss. I’ve learned about being careful when dealing with these kitties after thinking I could have a dialogue with #####, I know better now and this website is more therapeutic then not.

#####, your site is fabulous! Although it’s true, some of the graphics are slightly squished on my quaint little screen; someday I have to move up from this vacuum-tube monitor, though the oak cabinet does go nicely with the living rooom set.

  I am immodestly suggesting that you might want to look at something I wrote about PUMAs called “A Field Guide to Fraidy Cats”. A lot of people say they have a great book in them; evidently I had that. But after I coughed it up I felt better. Too much cat company has a deleterious effect; be careful.

“... i was referring to will bower ...”

Heh. I knew that, it’s just if one wants to call him names, I think there are plenty of more imaginative and descriptive ones available.

thanks for the input, and when i wrote bitch i was referring to will bower but i see what you mean…lol

I would go for a simpler, less graphics-heavy design.  The current one is a bit hard to read, and only works with browser windows well over 1000 pixels wide.

Personally, I’d lose the “Bitch” bit from the Darragh video title as it adds nothing, but it’s your site.

The design’s quite striking, but red on gray text isn’t at all easy to read.

I still have a whole lot to do to this site before it’s ready for active duty however you are all welcome to check out what I have so far at this temporary address. Any feedback or comments are welcome.
http://pumafail.com.b1.hostkarma.com/splashpage/

Allan—Sad.  I seem to remember slinkerwink being a sane, considerate person as recently as a couple of years ago.  As for Dean, it’s a mystery: I think that he deserves whatever cabinet position he wants, but also that he may just be too normal to want to be in the cabinet.

At least… he does it unintentionally.

#####—I hear legendary filmmaker Brad Mays does that kind of thing on the cheap.

john - how about the jenni video?

I need something of an introduction for my welcome page over at pumafail.com, something full of snark. Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks Mrs. Polly…

John: here’s Miss Sunshine! It’s comment #34, I think. At 8:49 AM. I wonder if it’s before or after she had her coffee. Until I’ve had my coffee, I’m just an ogre, yet I somehow manage not to wish for mass death.

http://pumapac.org/2008/11/08/just-what-we-need/

Does anybody have the link to the jenn4hillary comment about wishing death and riots or something like that to everyone who voted for Obama? Any other links to her most vile comments would be appreciated as well…thanks

I’m as guilty as anyone in this regard.  I wanted Russ Feingold for VP and Dean was my first thought for HHS as well.

And there’s always more to the story.  We’ll never know who really wanted what, and who self-selected out of consideration due to skeletons in closets.

It’s just that the screeching classes at DKos have been DEMANDING WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!1! (I’m talking to YOU, slinkerwink!) that Obama must pick Dean or he’s a baby-raping Nazi, and that if Kathleen Sibelius doesn’t run for the Senate then Newt Gingrich becomes King of the World and we all die, or something to that effect.

Politicians control their own careers to a point, but I think the downside for Sibelius if she refused the offer would be fairly significant. It’s not quite as simple as you depict.

The truth probably lies somewhere in between, but the fact that Dean wasn’t even given lip service from the WH speaks volumes.

Well, Tom, those two themes have dominated the sturm and drang at DKos about Sibelius, but I think they’re worth unpacking.

Rahm and Dean may not be each others’ biggest fans, but if Obama really wants Howard Dean, he would ask Howard Dean, and Rahm would suck it up and move on to other battles.

And if Sibelius would much rather run for Senator than go to HHS, she would decline the offer.

Both of these popular memes have as an underpinning the idea that our politicians don’t actually own their careers, but are instead pieces on a chessboard that move where we demand they go.

Maybe Dean doesn’t want to be in the Cabinet, and maybe Sibelius would rather be in the Cabinet than the Senate.

Food for thought…

This makes no sense whatsoever. Are we really so stupid as to give up a likely pick-up in the Senate just so Rahm can stick it to Howard Dean?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/us/politics/19heal th.html?_r=1&hp;

LOL. It took me a couple of minutes to figure that one out from your post myself, Tom (a bit booklagged here today).

I’m sure the McCains and Palins and Clintons and Bushes out there are going through similar emotions. Not to mention the Limbaughs ...

It’s rather interesting sharing a last name with the current head of the RNC. You can imagine my panic when this just popped up in my mailbox from “Democracy for America”:

Tom -

One week from tonight, President Obama will make an Address to Congress that is the equivalent of a State of the Union speech.

It’s been almost a month since Barack moved into the White House and already we’ve seen change we can believe in—Guantanamo has been ordered to close, car emission standards have been raised, anti-choice gag rules have been rescinded, and he got Congress to pass his first big stimulus package—to name just a few.

Not bad for his first month.

But there’s so much more to do. So, if you were President and you were addressing Congress next week. What issues would get top priority in the Steele administration?

made my heart skip a beat

Woo! That’s quite an accolade.

PUMA does it again—~synthesis~ hits the big-time.  The Confluence was robbed, I tell you.  Robbed!

I wouldn’t be surprised to see this one as one of Murphy’s “Women Who Smoke” series:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/17/china.mi stress.contest/index.html

I guess things must be desperate over at The Effluence if RD’s opening the doors to all.

I wonder what Darragh’s reaction’s going to be to RD trying to poach membership? Especially if jforh gets comfortable over there (I do look forward to seeing how myiq copes).

Anyway, jforh is way behind the times. The logical extrapolation of her views was set out many years ago.

The Correntites are the Judean People’s Front to the PUMA’s People’s Front of Judea.

Together they caterwaul, “What has Obama ever done for us?”

Although I must say that the thought of PUMAs agitating to force feed the pill to unsuitable women makes my day. They could change their name to Pregnant, Underpaid? Must Abort.

(And I must learn to think before I hit submit.)

In this corner we have “Waaaah! PUMA is the new Jew!” In the other corner we have: “Let’s legislate who can and cannot get pregnant!”

Christ, it’s the Cognitive Dissonance Cuckoo Clock Popping out of the Cranium event of the century.

Bride of Chucky:

One other thing: We didn’t endorse any candidate for president. There are some blogs who think we converted to McCain after the convention. This is incorrect. We dissociated ourselves from the Just Say No Deal coalition once we realized that it was their intent to work with the McCain campaign. We endorsed many Democrats for the House and the Senate. However, many of our front posters, including yours truly, voted for McCain as a protest, not out of any fondness for Republican policies. We cried bitter tears afterwards but we didn’t want to reward the DNC for the way they invalidated our votes during the primary season. We believe that narrowed Obama’s margin of victory. Good.

Thanks for clearing that up.  My opinion of you is completely different now.

Meow!

Hiss!

Who knew a rivalgasm could be so much fun to watch?  More popcorn, please!

1) make laws stating that you cannot have a child you cannot pay to cloth, house, and feed and medicate

Whatever medication her parents are paying for, it isn’t strong enough.

The other day, she seemed to be trying to channel Mao, though I think it got garbled in the ether:

jenniforhillary 02.14.09 at 3:01 pm

3 ways to end poverty:

1) make laws stating that you cannot have a child you cannot pay to cloth, house, and feed and medicate
2) make sure that young girls are protected from sexual assault and given good educations
3) change the way we view children as a whole; instead of looking at them as a ‘right’ they should be a privilege

Let’s start now. I’m ready, are you?

jenniforhillary:

Jews turned in jews under Hitler, so none of this surprises me. Wait, yes it does. Because I thought those sad and horrid times were history, not historical. What is happening now is what always happens, because we turn away from history when it suits us. and it suits us. and the rest of us are left to run from the left to the right and back again, trying to find respite. but it does not exist.

because, obviously, the Corrente-Confluence catfight is exactly like “Jews turn[ing] in Jews under Hitler.”

We can offer amnesty, so long as you acknowledge to yourselves that you were mislead [sic] about us.

Dear Bottomfeeder,

When the PUMAs first burst onto the political scene like an overripe zit, I thought you all were merely a bunch of whiny attention whores. But now I admit I was misled.

You are in fact one of the biggest pack of vile, bigoted, cowardly, brainless and delusional idiots that I’ve ever had the pleasure of mocking mercilessly. In fact, if anyone were to ask me to rank your herd of dimwitted vituperative weasels against the Republicans, I’d say they’re obviously the same damn thing.

There, I’ve admitted I was misled. Where’s my secret PUMA decoder ring?

This is the nail offering amnesty to the hammer.

Ye Gods, what a clueless fucktard.

An amoeba may offer amnesty to an intestine, but that’s no reason to stop taking the chloroquine.

Just so you know, riverchucky is making the progressive blogosphere an offer:

If the progressive blogosphere is now sober and alarmed, I have a proposition for it. Now is the time when we put aside our differences. We will try to turn the other cheek and put aside the fact that you guys acted like f%^*ing @$$holes towards us for the past year. If you are fully alarmed and ready to do some real activism, it is time we had some REAL unity and coordinated our messages. We can offer amnesty, so long as you acknowledge to yourselves that you were mislead about us.

I’m sure the progressive blogosphere will get right back to her on that.

Duh. Never mind.

Allan, link. Plz?

Oh man, Helen is writing a chapter-by-chapter recap of Ann Coulter’s latest book, and I’m thinking Helen would do a better job debating Ann than Bill Maher will on their upcoming tour.

Really.  You can’t make this stuff up - unless you are Ann Coulter.  My favorite part is when she claims “the poor” are actually counterfeit victims.  That’s right folks - George Bush and Tom Delay can be victims but a poor person is either lying about being poor or deserves to be poor.  Well I am glad Ms. Coulter has lots of money because when you are poor it is hard to afford designer shoes in a size 17ww.  By the way, for some unknown reason Ann likes to put lots of individual words in quotations like “poor” and “racism” to suggest that those concepts really don’t exist.  It’s an awkward writing style and kind of bothered me as a reader, but maybe Ann is just “smarter” than I am.

Margaret, I ask you,  if a book falls in the forest and doesn’t make any sense, is it really a book?  And if it’s not really a book then the monkey who wrote it really isn’t an author… right?  I guess what I am trying to say is this -  if Ann Coulter makes up a lot of crap and puts it on a piece of paper how is that any different than what I do with a roll of Charmin after my morning bran muffin?

YAFB, thanks for the reminder.  I lost track of Margaret and Helen and now I have them bookmarked and am catching up.  Priceless.

Anybody else been enjoying these two?

http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/

I’ve been enthralled for months.

Mrs. P. is a very talented artist but I don’t know if she’d create kitten orgy.

However, if she did, I’m sure it’d be a masterpiece.

Do we have any talented artists who could take the Pumasphere logo and animate the red, white and blue kitties fucking each other?  ‘Cause that would be sooo cute….

Mrs. P, in the immortal words of Monty P (no relation), “We’ve got piles of it out back.”

YAFB, that Britain could get itself into a scandalette about Titian’s age makes me want to sing.

Hey Tom65, thanks for the heads-up.  I joined you in the comments section.

Happy Darwin Day indeed:

[Lieberman] will walk to and from his office, as needed, will not ride in the senate elevators or special subways underneath the capitol

He also will not step on any sidewalk cracks, out of consideration for his mother’s back.  Can a human being be more superstitiously repulsive while also being a Senator?

Damn, just….damn:

http://########################/2009/02/12/rumproast -the-eightfold-path/#comment-7065

Point and Laugh at What Passes for Politics in Britain, Part I

Titian, the Tory and Wikipedia: a modern morality tale

When David Cameron sat down yesterday after his weekly joust with Gordon Brown at prime minister’s questions he must have thought he had landed more than just a glancing blow to his rival’s credibility.

The Conservative leader had found a weak spot in one of the prime minister’s more esoteric recent political pronouncements when in Davos last month, Brown said he had much in common with the Italian Renaissance artist Titian who did his best work in his dotage and reached the age of 90.

It was not the unlikely comparison between the dour Scot and the Italian genius that the opposition leader thought amiss, rather its biographical accuracy and Cameron pounced.

“The prime minister never gets his facts right,” said the Conservative leader. “You told us the other day you were like Titian aged 90. The fact is Titian died at 86.”

But the blow did not sting Brown for long, because no sooner had PMQs wrapped up, what had seemed an old-fashioned points scoring exercise morphed into a parable of modern political chicanery.

Sharp-eyed observers noticed that at 12.34pm, Titian’s biography on Wikipedia was edited to reduce his age. The original birth and death dates were set at 1485 and 1576, meaning Brown could have been correct, but they were changed to 1490 and 1572.

A quick search of the online encyclopedia’s records showed that someone at the IP address 194.203.158.97 was behind the edit and a check with the internet register revealed that address is registered to Conservative central office.

The Conservatives had to hold their hands up, and last night a spokesman said “this was an over-eager member of staff putting right an incorrect entry on Wickipedia [sic] ... they are hugely embarrassed”.

Puzzlingly the official had changed Titian’s age to 82, not the 86 that Cameron stated and only added to the general confusion around Titian’s age.

The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York thinks he lived to 88, while the Louvre seemed to think he was about 86 when he died.

Last night Downing Street declined to enter the debate about just how old the master was. “I don’t think we’re really getting into that,” said a spokeswoman. “The prime minister has made his comments on the issue.”

Heh, he’s probably bragging about it to all his imaginary friends.

I thought it interesting because it seems to imply that in certain instances at least, if you make a big enough ass of yourself, you stop being a strictly private person (a fate worse than death in my opinion) and the public can pretty much point and laugh at will. Thanks to the intertubes, it’s REALLY easy to make a big ass of yourself.

Of course, the court couldn’t very well say: “Look anyone can see this guy is a raving space loon and we want him and out of here before he bites us.”

“A limited-purpose public figure.”

That’s beautiful.  I recommend it for Larry’s tombstone.

Shorter Larry Sinclair: I will fight to the death for my right to be called a crack whore!

Wow. Looks like Long John Sibley is still representing him too. Wow.

Please say I’m not the only one who thought Master when he read the judge’s name. I’m probably the only geek who read through the whole thing. Never mind. Well wait, I thought this was interesting:

Arguably, Sinclair is a limited-purpose public figure concerning the controversy that he sought to generate relating to candidate Obama and the 2008 presidential election, see Waldbaum v. Fairchild Publ’ns, Inc., 627 F.2d 1287, 1296-97 (D.C. Cir. 1980), and hence he must show actual malice.

Hmmm…

Happy Darwin’s birthday! Of course, it’s only a theory…

Women who smoke?

Oops: “It turns out she swam about 250 miles in all and rode in the boat for the rest.”  How fitting.

I just saw Doubt tonight and there is no doubt in my mind that Sister Aloysius Beauvier (Meryl Streep’s role) is a PUMA. Anyone else see it and pick up on that?

Can’t wait to read about this miscarriage of justice over at Flowbee’s place.  Maybe they’ll defame the judge…

LMAO!

Indeed, the irony here is that defendants’ alleged statements actually dispute whether Sinclair engaged in the criminal and disreputable acts that he has claimed, hardly the normal fare of a defamatory statement.

Imagine looking at your schedule and seeing that the next case on the docket is “Sinclair v TubeSockTed”. And TubeSockTed is the rational one.

Larry Sinclair loses the court case where he was sueing blog commenters for defamation (I think the judge overdosed on irony):

http://www.citizen.org/litigation/briefs/IntFreeSpch /cases/articles.cfm?ID=14267#sinclair

Cool! I didn’t mean to sound discouraging, but it’s best to be realistic (still waiting, without holding my breath, to hear back from the Puma company!).

Be sure and let us know how it goes.

YAFB - thanks.  I’ve contacted Proctor & Gamble & America’s Next Top Model (the picture was taken during the show, they may have some rights).  We’ll see what happens.  I’ll probably contact their hosting service.  I love messing with them and have some free time.

Probably all of the “borrowed” artwork they use violates somebody’s copyright (unless they’ve managed to find some under Creative Commons).

What could be done about it is another matter. To be honest (and I’d obviously like to make life harder for them), that sort of thing is rife all over the interwebs.

If you can be bothered, you could tip off the copyright owner if you can identify them. Don’t be disappointed if nothing happens about it, though.

One possibly productive angle might be to check out the terms and conditions of their hosting service. Whois says that pumapac.org is hosted by DreamHost Web Hosting: http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=http://pumapac& tld=org

Dreamhost does have rules about copyright: http://abuse.dreamhost.com/copyright/

This may be an avenue to explore:

“I’m not the copyright holder, but still want to report infringement.”
If you see any obvious/blatant infringement going on, please let us know and we’ll take a look. However, in all but the most blatant of cases (even in some cases that may seem like obvious infringement to you) we will still need to receive a DMCA Notification directly from the copyright holder or their official representative before we remove any content. If that’s not you, the best thing to do is contact the copyright holder yourself and link them to this page so that they know how to get ahold of us directly.

However, it also says this:

DMCA Abuse & Misuse
From time to time, someone will attempt to blatantly misuse the DMCA process in order to remove content from someone else’s site. Usually when this occurs, it is done censor content they find offensive or that is critical of them. Other times, it’s simply a matter of a DMCA Notification being overly broad or ambiguous.

In any case, we will not accept a clearly invalid or overly broad or ambiguous DMCA Notification. The DMCA is not a tool with which to bully or censor our customers, and those who abuse the process open themselves up to significant legal liability.

You’ll find both those FAQs at http://abuse.dreamhost.com/copyright/#distribution

er..otherwise known as copyright…

Does anyone here know if DWP’s photoshopping efforts voilate copywrite laws?  Yesterday it was the HOPE poster that’s already involved in a usage lawsuit, today it a picture from CoverGirl.

And it was extra nice of the producers to provide entertainment especially for the First Family, with Stevie Wonder and the Jonas Brothers.

OK, Sasha and Malia, you can go to bed now.  You too, Barack and Michelle.

And if Whitney Houston was actually sober, then we’ve established that much of what we all thought was stoned is just stupid.

OK can we dish about the Grammys? 

Apparently Jennifer Hudson rushed to the auditorium either from the dentist’s chair or Red Lobster and forgot to take off the bib before accepting her award…

Oh dear HTP, now I shall not be able to order my favorite warm chevre salad ever, ever again.

If he isn’t walking around punching himself in the face all day there really is no such thing as justice in this world.

He does stick his goat schmegma covered mug in Balloon Juice from time to time, leading me to assume he likes being punched in the face.

OMG ##### accidentally published the PUMA game plan in an open forum! 

This is even worse than that America-hating Republican Congressman Peter Hoekstra who betrayed the USA by Twittering his whereabouts on an Iraq junket... the fucking traitor.

##### explains it all

The problem is that extremists on both sides have decided to rehash “history” in order to “justify” things that are not justifiable. They start with the position that the other side is eeeevil and start looking for details and “collecting grievances” that will support their claim. Then, once having proved “them” to be demonic, it is okay to treat “them” in a less than human way.

Oh the humanity.

Has there ever been anyone who doesn’t get the concept of hypocrisy more than myiq1/2u?

What pissed me off about Jeralyn is she suddenly shifted to Obama worship and she banned anyone who remained consistent and didn’t join her.

If he isn’t walking around punching himself in the face all day there really is no such thing as justice in this world.

I met a homeless man tonight who should have been a PUMA. I thought about directing him to their site before I realized he probably doesn’t have internet access.

Tom65 - Never mind the Klingons, here’s the zombies.

I hope no one tries this in Boston, the city would shut down for a week.

LOL.  Well, I think a lot of people, including me, thought that she wouldn’t have run up all that debt if she hadn’t insisted on taking a losing campaign to the bitter end. On the bright side, it definitely toughened Obama up for the general election to deal with all the crap Bill and Hill flung at him.

Mar is on to the dirtiest secret of all re: the Hillary Clinton campaign, the one that cannot and must not be acknowledged under penalty of PUMA death.

America to Hillary: we’re just not that into you.

I’ve not been convinced that Bowers stupid announcement had that much of an effect on contributions since it was obvious pretty quickly that it wasn’t true.  I think it was more that people just weren’t that motivated to do it.

What an idiot. You don’t blurt out a figure like that on national TV based on fourth-hand information. And, as noted, it had a definite chilling effect on contributions.

BTW, related to YAFB’s comment ... we had a visitor yesterday.

Heh.

If Marilyn can score a date, so can the gang (clique) at Buttburger!

Uh oh, we’re being stalked again.

That’s pretty humorous coming from a sad bastard whose last “date” was probably like an outtake from Lars and the Real Girl.

Will Bower today gave a new non-apology for the Clinton/PUMA donation SNAFU, as reported here: http://stupidpumas.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/pinheads-us ing-meaningless-astrology-pac/

You know we’re in trouble when roving bands of Trekkies start jacking the local 7-11:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18637190/detail.html#-

Here’s a novelty (to me, anyway).

Go to Crusty Adkins’ old site http://www.clintons4mccain.com and you get this message:

Greetings,

If you have an account here, we have moved you. Click >here< to go to the new site, and once there request a password reset from the system.

When you get the email from the system, follow the instructions.

Once logged in, you will see “Town Hall Forum” in the navigation bar there. Click on that, that’s the old Support Forum from here. Your account, all posts, avatars, attachments and everything else are all there, intact.

If any problems or questions, use the new site’s feedback feature to contact me.

Thanks,

Administrator

If you click on the >here< on Clintons4McCain, it takes you to a site called “The Regulators,” whose purpose will, I trust, soon become clear.

Funny that.

Well, the ONLY thing I can say is that the Confluence is heads and shoulders above PUMA PAC for vocabulary, spelling and grammar.

Want us to go over there and stir up a blog war (I think I’m still registered as “Stupid Wonkette”)?

No need. They just destroyed another one called “Cussing News.”

I had to do that! I downloaded Jennifer X by mistake, and ever since then my hard drive has a high-pitched whine.

AltHippo, there is never any other explanation for any position taken by any PUMA anywhere anytime.  If you find yourself thinking for a moment that there might be a principled and honest rationale for anything a PUMA says, you are suffering from PUMA toxicity, and must close your internet browser at once to avoid succumbing.

I couldn’t help but notice the celebratory atmosphere at Riverchucky’s, Murphy’s, and Lambert’s blogs over the withdrawal of Daschle as HHS secretary.  While they cast it in terms of lack of Daschle’s support for “real” UHC, I wonder if the following from TPM is closer to the truth.  It was written about the Republicans, but applies IMHO equally to the PUMAs:

[...] it’s clear they want to hurt the Dems as critically as possible. They’ve been wounded and, well, you know what they say about wounded animals. They’re dangerous. These creeps would gladly take down the country to damage the Dems for their own party [...]

Oh, and “There’s a place in Hell reserved for women who don’t support other women,” right?

A complete lack of h/t from your chums at Wonkette for this one, Kevin:

http://wonkette.com/405945/upstate-ny-leather-jacket -shop-hates-hillary#comments

Want us to go over there and stir up a blog war (I think I’m still registered as “Stupid Wonkette”)? I mean, it’s more than a week since the last one.

Too bad their plan to sweep McLumpy and the Palindrone into office didn’t work. There’d be absolutely no pandering to talevangicals then.

Well, after a gazillion comments nodding sagely in agreement and lauding RD for her “brave stand” (am I wrong to suspect she actually chose what she thought was a relatively “safe” subject for a rant after the Mother Of All Debates?), a little dissent appears to have reared its ugly head.

This comment in particular may eventually earn Micki a spell in the gulag:

And how fabulously advanced you are for rejecting organized religion and becoming atheists so you can have some feminist cred.

So far, though ... *crickets*

Apparently there is an undiscovered and very, very, very, very deep cave system out there.

Nope. It’s just further evidence that the kitties aren’t from this planet and have recently just immigrated. We should’ve put up a fence around the planet a long time ago.

It’s time we stopped allowing the Catholic church and other churches from dictating what the natural order of things is supposed to be.  We need to reject it as a legitimate voice in the public sphere. When it says, “Jump!”, we say, “STFU”.

Uh, I was raised RC. At one point I wanted to be a priest when I grew up, and I’ve been giving the church both middle fingers for years. Seriously, spelunkers need to ask these idiots where they’ve been for the past eleventy hundred decades. Apparently there is an undiscovered and very, very, very, very deep cave system out there.

The consciousness raising of the kitties continues.  The Catholic Church is misogynistic?  Who knew.

Looks like Chucky watched The DaVinci Code over the weekend:

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/tuesda y-losing-my-religion/