Charlie Crist: “Rahm, but it’s just like Lieberman in reverse. Talk to me!”

Oopsie:

Here first: Charlie Crist, soon to be independent Senate candidate from Florida, tried to reach White House chief of staff Emanuel through intermediates. WH refuses to take the call. Dems plan big talent/money blitz for Kendrick Meek.

If they really want to help Meek, they should get Plouffe on a plane to Florida immediately and make sure that Meek’s got Axelrod’s cellphone number. Laying low has worked well for Meek as Rubio and Crist duked it out, but after today everything changes.

Posted by Kevin K. on 04/29/10 at 11:08 AM • Permalink

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This is going to be fascinating. You’re right about Meek—now is the time to kick it into gear. I didn’t think he had a snowflake’s chance in hell unless something really bizarre happened. The bizarre will occur at 5 PM today, it seems. I’m tempted to hitch up the wagon and ride into town for the big show. But that would entail leaving the house.

The bizarre is becoming a matter of course in US politics these days.  Watching the Republicans snorting down arsenic for the high does have its entertainment value, but I do have to worry—where will it all lead?  I mean, yeah, in the long run, they’re a political corpse, but that’s a while off yet, and they’re getting crazier and crazier…

In California, the Whitman-Poizner battle for Governor in the Republican primary completely dominates the TV with ads accusing each other of being dirty fucking hippies who fellate Obama daily.  SHE gave money to Barbara Boxer!  Oh yeah, well HE gave money to Al Gore!

They do know the rest of us are watching, right?

where will it all lead?

Kevin predicts: I know the teabaggers and the manic progressives envision they’ll be the force behind the next (only?) viable third party, but I think it’s more likely we’ll be seeing a “centrist” party (I know, I know) emerging led by the likes of Lieberman, Crist, Bloomberg, Frum, Graham, etc.  Note that I wrote “the likes.” Not sure who will lead the charge, but they definitely have the firepower to do it more than the far right or the far left. If that does happen, we’ll see the Repubs lurch even more toward the right and the Dems, unfortunately, lurch even more toward the center. I guess the good news is that it’ll probably create a big enough void on the left to make way for a true progressive party.

BTW, it looks like Rubio hurt himself with the teabaggers by being mildly critical of the AZ immigration bill.  Check out the 1st comment on his newest YouTube video:

You need to take a SERIOUS read on the AZ law and reject the notion of being weak on illegal immigrants. AZ law is about addressing arrested suspects; not racial profiling. If you keep bashing Republicans, it is you that should become a third party candidate. If your base is “conservative,” they are going to become deaf to any other message.

Kevin predicts: I know the teabaggers and the manic progressives envision they’ll be the force behind the next (only?) viable third party, but I think it’s more likely we’ll be seeing a “centrist” party (I know, I know) emerging led by the likes of Lieberman, Crist, Bloomberg, Frum, Graham, etc

Oh, hell—long run, no argument.  I know we all like to drag out the Know-Nothings for a nice bit of deserved stoning now and then, but one also needs to remember their history—despite the deep-rooted belief of Know-Nothing leaders that anti-immigrant sentiment was strong enough to build a national party on, and the occasional victory at the state level, the Know-Nothings continuously self-destructed, and were forced to constantly relabel themselves in futile efforts to distance themselves from what we’d now call a toxic brand.  The hard right ALWAYS overestimates its own strength, and underestimates the amount of repugnance it creates in this country.  So, yes—long run, ‘splosion.

But right now, they are living in the skin of one of the two big parties in the US and forcing the corpse to dance to their crazy.  And that gives them a lot more muscle then they’ve ever had at any point in the nation’s history.

And that gives them a lot more muscle then they’ve ever had at any point in the nation’s history.

All very good points and I don’t disagree with any of it. November will be the big test and the media will play a big part, as usual, in how the results are perceived. The MSM will make or break the teabaggers/Know-Nothings and I am concerned that they might overamplify even the slightest Repub victories.  The good news is that I think the elections are starting to look better and better for the Dems, but the one chink in the armor I see is Kaine (who I think, next to Judd Gregg, was Obama’s worst appointment) and the DNC not capitalizing on all the Repubs have been handing them lately. We could really use Howard Dean right about now.

Well said, John Ball. The scary thing is that outside events—like, say, an implosion of the Euro that kills our tentative economic recovery—could hand the crazies huge political gains just because the dumb, panicky herd that is America would be pissed off and ready to lash out indiscriminately. That’s the kind of possibility that keeps me up nights.

BTW, Gregg counts as an appointment even though he turned it down, correct?

Well said, John Ball. The scary thing is that outside events—like, say, an implosion of the Euro that kills our tentative economic recovery—could hand the crazies huge political gains just because the dumb, panicky herd that is America would be pissed off and ready to lash out indiscriminately.

Thanks, now I won’t sleep either. Good christ, Obama’s been handed the worst hand ever, hasn’t he? I only write that because I’m a shameless, Kool-Aid drinkin’ Obot, not because, ya know, it’s true.

Back to the Rahm thing for a second, I’m very glad that they’re not playing the same game that the GOP did with Lieberman. The Repubs threw Alan Schlesinger under the bus for Lieberman and I’m sure Crist was fishing for the same kinda deal (team of rivals and all). Very good news that they didn’t take the bait.

Exactly, Betty.  I’m not worried about some gradual takeover—they do NOT have the staying power for that.  They never do.  What I’m worried about is dice falling so they get their shot now, before they completely fall apart.  (Which is coming soon.  For the umpteenth time—2012 RNC.  There’s a good chance it’s going to make Chicago ‘68 look like happy happy fun time.)  It’s a longshot—but if they get their chance…

Hell, we haven’t recovered from Bush.  If they get their chance, stick a fork in us—we’re done.

Best thing Meeks can do right now is sit back and watch Crist and Rubio go at each other over the state GOP’s finances (among other things), while the DSCC throws some big money his way for the general.

Best thing Meeks can do right now is sit back and watch Crist and Rubio go at each other over the state GOP’s finances (among other things), while the DSCC throws some big money his way for the general.

I don’t know.  That didn’t work too well for McCain and he was a national name.  Maybe Betty has more insight into this (he’s been virtually invisible from a national perspective), but I think Meek really has to start getting out front more. I don’t think he can afford to stay low much longer.  November isn’t really that far away.

We could really use Howard Dean right about now.

Agreed.  I was never really sure what Dean did to piss everyone off, but replacing him with Kaine appeared to me to be a nod to Dinos and very short-sighted.

So did Crist announce yet? Not seeing anything anywhere.

I was never really sure what Dean did to piss everyone off, but replacing him with Kaine appeared to me to be a nod to Dinos and very short-sighted.

I think it was understood that Dean’s rein was done regardless of who was the nominee. Not quite sure why, though.

I thought Crist was going to announce at 5:00.  I stepped away for a sec, but don’t think I missed anything Tweets was spitting about.

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