Everything Changed After 4/27 [UPDATED BELOW]

I lived here during 9/11 and I’m surprised folks are still this jumpy (make sure to watch the video at the bottom of page).  Maybe I’m used to low-flying planes living out here in Brooklyn, but I can’t believe that many people got freaked out, even people in Jersey City. Weird.

MORE: Here’s a second video from the same woman whose video was in the NY Times post…

UPDATE: I stand corrected.  CBS 2 in NYC has posted some descriptions from witnesses.  This is fucked up and explains the terror in Jersey City…

Amy in Jersey City wrote: “I work in the 30 Hudson building in Jersey City, on the side that faces the Statue of Liberty. Our group is on one of the top floors and needless to say we probably had some of the best views of this incident. We were conducting work as normal when all of a sudden we see this huge commerical plane coming at us. People were ducking and on the floor because it came so close. The plane flew right over us and couldn’t have missed the building by more than 100 feet. Then we heard people scream it was coming back. The plane literally looked like it was going to barrel into our building coming straight at us until it turned upwards at the last minute. I can’t believe I saw the underbelly of a plane fly over me. When it started coming back a 3rd time, we ran for the stairs. It’s safe to say we are pretty angry about having to evacuate and go down 30+ flights of stairs for a ‘photo shoot.’ What a start to the week.”

Yikes.  I’d be running for the stairwell, too, if this account is accurate. This photo-op was an exceptionally bad idea.

MORE: The blame game begins...

City officials were notified of the planned flight, but did not share that information with New Yorkers, many of whom said they were terrified. [...]

NYPD brass say defense officials expressly told the city not to inform the public.

“The flight of a VC-25 aircraft and F-16 fighters this morning was authorized by the FAA for the vicinity of the Statue of Liberty with directives to local authorities not to disclose information about it but to direct any inquiries to the FAA Air Traffic Security Coordinator,” Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne said.

The mayor’s office was told the jets would only buzz the Statue of Liberty once, and not fly over downtown three times, a source said.

“Had we known, we would have pushed back,” the source said.

Until more info is released I’m siding with the NYPD and the mayor on this. Still not clear who authorized this on the fed side, though. Someone’s head should roll for this cock-up, though.

UPDATE: Here’s video someone took in New Jersey and submitted to ABC News in NYC.  This really puts it in perspective.  You can hear someone yelling “Oh my god” about halfway through as the plane turns awfully close to a building.

MORE: A commenter at the NY Times brought up a very good point...

They need a 747 with 2 fighter escorts to take pics of the statue of Liberty on a business day

This was a bad enough idea, but, if they had to do it, why not on a weekend when all of the office buildings would have been empty?

Posted by Kevin K. on 04/27/09 at 10:51 AM • Permalink

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Kevin, I’m not surprised. Down here, there is simply no such thing as just a low flying plane any more.

New York City and State look to be at fault for this one. They were alerted. The flyover should have been played up on local news, too.

Mrs. Polly, did you see it or hear about it? Not mocking people who were alarmed, just surprised to read that people were streaming out of buildings, etc.

Yeah, when you look at the building’s location in relation to the Statue of Liberty, I can understand why people freaked out.  Big time communication failure here.

Comment by Pumalicious! on 04/27/09 at 11:46 AM

I missed it! I was probably dead to the world. I missed the plane that flew right over my building on 911, too: I was in the shower.

Definitely not the person you’d want on patrol with you.

Big time communication failure here.

Most definitely. If there’s one thing Bloomber’s good at it’s communication, so with what we currently know the blame doesn’t seem to fall on his administration (or the NYPD).

Not making light of the concern for low-flying planes, but I live near Wright-Patterson AFB and we get a lot of those big cargo planes flying low as they come in. I swear, I could read the expression on the pilot’s face a couple of times…

Agreed, Donnah.  We’re right below a flight path to LaGuardia, so I hear (and see) them all of the time, but if you watch that video I just added, it’s pretty easy to see why people were unnerved.

Considering the history, I’m not a bit surprised.

A previous publicity photo of Air Force One flying over Mount Rushmore is pretty old, so now they have one of it flying over New York and the Statue of Liberty. The Air Force needs cool photos for recruiting. It also improves the security of Air Force One to have good hand-out photos to satisfy public curiosity, so people have less incentive to approach the plane to take their own pictures. The city was notified and ORDERED not to tell the public in advance, because advance notice of Air Force One flying low and slow at a particular place and time would make the plane a target. Someone could have been waiting on a roof with a gun or rocket. Why not do it on a weekend? Probably to avoid paying overtime to however many civilians had to be involved in this.

All good points, Nem Wan. I figured overtime would have been a factor for a weekend shoot and security concerns are warranted with advance notice. I still think this was an awful idea, though. Yep, the Statue of Liberty is a national icon and obviously a patriotic symbol, but it was a poor choice considering all factors and they should have scrapped the idea.

WOW! If I seen a huge @$$ plane coming at me like that I would have piss in my pants.

One thing I would like to know is why did they need to do that in NY? Knowing how the city has been traumatize by the 9/11 event just shows how very insensitive to the situation some are.

Too late. It’s already being spun as an Obama vanity project, a campaign commercial or a training-tape for his pals in al-Qaeda.

Damn stupid thing in any event.

My first guess—living in a safe midwestern city that’s a frequent prop for H-Wood films—was that this looked like another Willis/Kostner/Harrison Ford aerial thriller in search of B-roll.

Then again, I empathize with New Yorkers, since we remember Flight 93 here…and half the people in Pittsburgh were calling 911 at the same time when they filmed Inspector Gadget.

Too late. It’s already being spun as an Obama vanity project, a campaign commercial or a training-tape for his pals in al-Qaeda.

Haven’t seen any bloggers doing that yet, but have certainly seen it in comments. Conspiracy theories are running wild, too.

My first guess—living in a safe midwestern city that’s a frequent prop for H-Wood films—was that this looked like another Willis/Kostner/Harrison Ford aerial thriller in search of B-roll.

One wingnut blog indicated that it was for a movie, but they didn’t provide any link.  Haven’t heard it mentioned on the news at all, but haven’t been paying attention for an hour or so.

Just heard Bloomberg on NPR say that he didn’t know about it at all, which is pretty amazing. I can’t believe DoD would buzz bomb NYC and the mayor finds out about it along with anyone else.

Uh oh, Phil Lesh fans are visiting here.  Remain ... very ... still.

The whole concept makes no sense.  This could have been done in a lab by either merging a film of the plane flying low over water with shots of the Statue of Liberty or using a model of the Statue of Liberty.

I really want to know what moron thought this was a good idea.

donnah I spent some time working at Wright-Pat a few years back, and it was really cool seeing all the aircraft flying around.  A city boy like me never got used to the sonic booms from the fighter jets when they pushed it.

Yeah, sorry, I live in the flight path of PHL, too and that would have freaked me the fuck out after 9/11.  Not fun or even cute.  Save the theatrics for somewhere else if at all.

tHEY WERE SPRAYING the CITY with

MAD***SWINE**COW**FLU***!!!11!!!!

I’ve been warning everybody about this chemtrail shit since even before the HAARP mind control low frequency antennae array in Alaska.

All this shit was predicted on the murals at the Denver airport.

The reptilians are behind it.

Yeah, that stupid fuck, White House Military Office Director Louis Caldera, who was behind this stupid “photo op” stunt needs to resign or be fired ASAP.

Speaking of stupid fucks with bad ideas…check out this evil shithead site - I was searching for the latest updates on the Swine Flu and found this disgusting diatribe by a site that calls itself “Republican Faith Chat”:

“SWINE FLU: GOD’S LATEST PUNISHMENT OF IDOL-WORSHIP”

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpress.com/2009/04/26 /swine-flu-gods-latest-punishment-of-idol-worship/

Most of the comments rip the author a new one for their hateful stupidity, but the one that advised the author to check out the Church of Google was my favorite!

http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/

Comment by G on 04/28/09 at 01:50 AM

Nem Wan

The city was notified and ORDERED not to tell the public in advance, because advance notice of Air Force One flying low and slow at a particular place and time would make the plane a target.

Could you imagine being the terrorist who shot down AF1 when the president was not in it. You’d be a terrist laughing stock. People would be writing jokes about you on the men’s room stalls in Mosques worldwide. They would take away your explosive belt and write “LOSER” on your prayer rug.

Im not from the US but can understand why some of you would still be pretty freaked out to witness this. As of yet its not been on the news over here, but I dont watch national news anyway as its usually rubbish. I feel for you guys I really do.

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