Gallup/USA Today Poll - Obama Most Admired Man in the World, Hillary Most Admired Woman

And according to the poll, the second most admired woman?  Sarah Palin.  Gah!  She came in ahead of Oprah!  (And, just for the record, I do not see exactly why people do admire Oprah so much, but I merely accept that she is, for whatever reason, an American Icon).  The official results were Hillary 20%,  Palin 11% and Oprah 8% followed by Condi at 7% and Michelle O with 3%.  The men’s results were a lot more lopsided.  Barack garnered 32% and the next closest finisher was, seriously?, yes, really, he was second, W., with 5%.  W. beat out McCain (3%) and the Pope, B. Clinton and Billy Graham, tied at 2% each. 

So, speaking as an amateur sociologist, what should we make of these results?  First of all, we haven’t seen the last of Sarah Palin by a long shot.  Or Oprah, I guess.  And Barack is still enjoying a significant honeymoon despite the media’s attempts to find a scandal somewhere, anywhere, WHERE THERE’S SMOKE THERE’S GOT TO BE FIRE FOR GAWDS SAKE, in the Blago story.

Also I’m thinking people must be buying some of the W. camp’s frantic spin effort to create a “legacy” out of a presidential travesty.  I mean, he polled ahead of the Pope and the Pope’s kept a pretty clean profile lately (although if I’m missing something here feel free to point it out as I don’t actively monitor the Pope’s comings and goings.)

I guess what annoys me more than anything is that Michelle only picked up 3% and she’s our new First Lady and a terrific person to boot!  Did people really buy into that “angry radical” rhetoric during the campaign?  Or maybe the public just needs to get to know her better. 

Who would you guys pick for “Most Admired” man and woman?  And what do you think these results say about our society?

Posted by marindenver on 12/26/08 at 07:22 PM • Permalink

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Sorry to threadjack, but:

http://www.mediatatters.com/

BWA HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!

No, but seriously…

BWAAAAAA HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!1!

5%? Bwahahaha!

Because I’m a huge geek, I really can’t say anything about the results without seeing the questions. But FIVE percent?

Bwahahaha [snort].

And someone is pushing the forged birth cert story in the comments. Wheeee!

How did Harriet’s jeweler find us so fast?

Love your comment Mrs. P. but Spam dies a quick death here!

And someone is pushing the forged birth cert story in the comments. Wheeee!

The comments are pretty hilarious.  Definitely says a lot about who reads USA Today (and yes, I AM a snob about what I read.  McPaper is, frankly, not on my A list.)

Looking at the list, I can only conclude that a) the criteria for “admirable” have become degraded or muddled; b) that the media emphasize “visibility” and “success” to the exclusion of less flashy ledes like the personal sacrifice of Burmese political prisoner Aung San Suu Kyi or Iranian human rights activist Shirin Ebadi; or 3) that we are actually living through a de-heroized lacuna in history, with no astronauts, no war heroes, no Lech Walesas, no Mother Teresas, no Albert Schweitzers, no Bishop Tutus or Martin Luther Kings.

Alternately, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the average person’s mental Rolodex is stuffed full of celebrities and politicians, and not much else. Asked to name one’s most admired persons on the fly, you’re infinitely likelier to spit out “Bono” or “Michael Phelps” before you even think about the guy who discovered “dark matter” or Space Shuttle pilot Pamela Melroy.

That’s probably several different ways of saying the same thing, and I apologize for the sloppy presentation.

Alternately, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the average person’s mental Rolodex is stuffed full of celebrities and politicians, and not much else.

See, the reason I want to see the survey questions (but not badly enough to hunt for them), is I suspect the surveyors read a list of names and participants picked one or ranked them. The more I look at this the harder it is to tell what the hell they were doing. The numbers add up to 95 and then there’s this beneath the results:

First and second choices combined.

It really pisses me off when they don’t link to the actual survey.

Yes, I’ve already said I’m a huge geek.

All right, I couldn’t take it anymore!

And it appears I was wrong.

And WTF is Margaret Thatcher doing on the list?

HTP: I just looked at the drill-down myself, and I am frankly cheered by the performance of “Other” and “None/No Opinion.”

This poll is messed up. Bush and Palin are garnering so much praise by the citizens of the world? I have a hard time believing that. That Oprah made it to the top of the list is unbelievable. All she did was flaunt her popularity by opening a real lavish school for underprivileged girls. And as much as I am fan of Obama, I just dont think he deserves that much praise as admired person. I wanna wait till he is President to see what he does. Yes he ran his campaign admirably, but not sure that deserves the Most admired man of the world status. I would say most admired man status should go to someone who spent their time fighting for the downtrodden here in the States or in the world.

I suppose Gov Paterson becomes an inadequate black male if he doesnt appoint Harriet Christian to the Senate huh?

bimbo slice: Harriet Christian is Gov. Patterson’s only chance to prove that he’s his own man, that he is not beholden to any political power-broker or puppeteer…and that he holds the people of NY in utter and deathless contempt.

Pumalishus- http://www.mediatatters.com

Check out the banner at the top of the page, top left, there is a photo of Harriet surrounded by adoring fans, ala Beatlemania.

It looks like she is holding an action figure of a samurai doll, wearing a cape and a tin foil hat.

Seriously.

I would say most admired man status should go to someone who spent their time fighting for the downtrodden here in the States or in the world.

Yes, if it was just up to me the Dalai Lama would be Numero Uno.  At least he got 1%.  I adore that guy and could become a Buddhist in a heartbeat if I was a little younger.  Maybe I still will.

I met the Dalai Lama, briefly when he came to SF, many years ago. Nice guy, very twinkly and all, did not get a vibe that he was a supernatural being or a god or emissary or anything.

Then again, I don’t get vibes. If I look over the edge of a tall building, I get something that starts in my ass and gets all the way up into my throat, but not sure that qualifies.

Dalai Lama is certainly one of the most interesting people in my time.

setting aside the utter ridiculousness of the poll/survey in general, the list of women is pretty sad compared to the list of men. I understand Oprah, she’s a businesswoman and philanthropist (Hey, Bill Gates is on there) but Ellen Degeneres and Angelina Jolie? Is Aung San Suu Kyi’s name too hard for people to remember? Is Shirley Ann Jackson (http://www.rpi.edu/president/profile.html) not People Mag attractive enough?

I suppose Gov Paterson becomes an inadequate black male if he doesnt appoint Harriet Christian to the Senate huh?

No, it will prove he is a nasty mean hateful woman lyncher!

Because he’s an inadequate black male.

BTW, Paterson might have been one of my picks for his neat end run around NY’s marriage laws. I also liked the way he came out and said he’d had an affair and had done drugs. You could smell the fReichtards’ disappointment. It smelled like burnt Cheetos.

Governor David Paterson should give serious consideration to a candidate like Harriet Christian and immediately agree to meet with her to discuss her potential appointment.

Do what we say right now or we’ll scream real loud!

I bet his security detail has gone on High Alert.

One more thing. I don’t want to see anyone messing around in the mediatatters Endorsements section. That would be mean and - 

Thank heavens! Go Harriet! Just watch out for orange balloons! You ALWAYS make me smile! (Well, when I’m not weeping.) Who needs intelligence, compassion, a love of justice or the desire to serve the public good?

Forget it.

Proof that the only good thing a poll is good for is stripping.

(And I’m with you Marindenver re Oprah. Btw, if you send me your email address, to moodyqt33 atsymbol hotmail dot com, I’ll send you that picture. : )

Re:  the mediatatters site…not knowing the players, will someone tell me if BeethovenQueen is an actual delusional puma, or someone with a well-developed sense of snark.

Because this?

Harriet Christian is a flesh & blood New Yorker, not someone popping into the state because a prestigious senate seat is available. As such, she understands the problems New Yorkers face and she understands them from all levels of the economic spectrum - a perspective the wealthy & privileged simply do not have.

is priceless.  That’s right, just like Hillary…

dewberry: Judging from her wordpress “Blogs About” page, she’s either the genuine article or working VERY deep undercover.

http://wordpress.com/tag/beethovenqueen/

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 12/27/08 at 11:30 AM

Kos gets back on his high horse about Kennedy:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/27/105925/69/7 66/677591

It’d be one thing if he could come up with some argument other than “I don’t like dynasties”, but he’s managed to make it a personal vendetta.

Comment by Tom65 on 12/27/08 at 01:06 PM

Kos gets back on his high horse about Kennedy

Kos used to be pretty witty and acerbic then he wrote his book and now he’s just dour and pedantic.  Moral:  don’t write a book if you think it’s going to make you all knowing.

J. - I’ll take you up on that!

I have become really disappointed at what the dkos website has become. Cant really understand what he has against Caroline. I mean there are so many non dynasty senators who just plain suck. And its not like the other contenders for the Senate seat are angels.

dkos website has become an Obama worshipping website. You now get rated based on how many “cute” pics or shirtless pics of Obama you post. Question any of Obama’s decisions and they troll rate you. For all the high falutin Kos does with regards to politician worshippers he certainly doesn’t have a problem with herd mentality when it comes to Obama

You guys are bad.

And Murphy, I am SOOO with you about the initials. I most earnestly believe that so, so many things go into making a person a great Senator and initials have to be VERY important. Murphy - you rock! (OH, Harriet too of course).

Christ, her “resume,” is up and ... uh ... someone needs a dictionary. Yeesh.

Never accepted any money from Lobbyists - for real - NEVER

Stick a needle in my eye. Cross my heart and hope to die!

Moral:  don’t write a book if you think it’s going to make you all knowing.

Well, shit - there goes my Saturday afternoon.

I just want to register my extreme displeasure with rumproast right now.

We’re more than 24 hours into the Harriet Christian campaign for senate appointment, and there hasn’t been a single snarktacular post about it! What is this world coming to!?

Ever since Wonk stopped the Hillary is 44 blog, I’ve been relying on rumproast and TYD for my PUMA snark fixes.  This oversight of the funniest PUMA idea since the election is stunning, and unfortunate.

Where can I go for my PUMA fix now? Strange8, do you have a blog?

Go straight to the source. Any attempt at snark is simply moot.

thatguysiqlike1/3adoorknob: Thank you for asking, but I post here at the pleasure of Kevin K., who has already generously overlooked my repeated prior attempts to have him banned from his own site. (I DO have a personal blog, but it is essentially a support site for men who are seeking advice on buttocks-enhancing implant surgery or under-the-pants polystyrene inserts…although I do have a separate chat area for “athletic performance toupees.”)

Part of the problem may be that the campaign to appoint Harriet Christian as NY Senator is just so cosmically stupid and hypocritical on its face that it is to snark what a powerful magnetic field is to an internal combustion engine.

Even Voltaire, I think, would be reduced to picking his jaw off his writing desk and penning the French equivalent of “Damn. Just damn.”

I mean, it’s right up there with, say, “Hey, Murphy! Let’s all take pictures of our vaginas and mail them to Chris Matthews’ wife”...or this ACTUAL brainstorm that just surfaced at PUMApark:

<q> wontbackdown 12.27.08 at 3:37 pm

  Murphy:

  How about a National PumaPac.Org Sponsored Essay Contest for Girls and Boys 12 to 16 on Sexism and Misogyny?</q>

At times, snark becomes superfluous.

Oh, farts—I forgot there are automated quote tags available, for the mentally unimpaired.

What Tom65 said.

thatguysiq - frankly I don’t think any of us can top the comments in this thread!

HTP - shhhh!!  (whispering) you’ll blow my cover!!

OK, this is for everyone who thinks the ‘Roasters aren’t pulling their freight on the Snark Train to Whoppietown:

AttackCat, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:31 pm Said:

GO HARRIET! To HELL with the Obot blogs and the MSM newsreaders who called you “embarrassing,” “dangerous” and “insane”! What we need right now are MORE “outsiders” in government who DON’T know how the system works and AREN’T afraid to “tell the Emperor his clothes are too tight.”

You go!

Farts, again—that would be “Whoopietown.”

We’re more than 24 hours into the Harriet Christian campaign for senate appointment, and there hasn’t been a single snarktacular post about it! What is this world coming to!?

Yo, it’s coming tomorrow night or Monday morning.  Didn’t want to waste it on a dead holiday weekend and was hoping we could get a much-needed post-election kick-up in traffic if one of the a-list blogs linked to it (*cough* Wonkette *cough*). Plus, wanted them to add a little more content to the blog.  It’s still pretty barren, though they’ve been fleshing out the “Resume” section today:

Harriet P. Christian

Waitress - working two jobs to make ends meet- she is the server, not the served

Supported Hillary Clinton for President - worked tirelessly

Campaigned for John McCain - true bi-partisanship

Active in the ERA Movement

Protested the Viet Nam War

Voted in 95% of every election and primary - atleast she votes

Street Smarts

Common Sense

Doesn’t know any celebrities

Knows what it’s like to make ends meet

Never accepted any money from Lobbyists - for real - NEVER

Has no connection to Washington Insiders

A real persons person

Knows the issues and problems facing everyday New Yorkers - she has lived it

Never had any songs written for her

Her Father was never President

Has actually worked for everthing she has

Nothing has been handed to her

Knows what it’s like to live on a month to month income

She is the antithesis to Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg who expects consideration because of her name

An everyday person who deserves consideration

Experience - As much, if not more than Caroline Kennedy!  but that shouldn’t matter!

Kevin K.—So if “experience” doesn’t matter, why are these people shitting all over Obama and Caroline?

For the sake of RR’s credibility, I am declining to post the obvious “Hitler” And “Ayatollah Khomeini” resume parodies…even though the “housepainter, knows how ‘real’ Germans feel” and “humble cleric, really connects with young people” angles are really screaming to me.

My personal favorite is “Never had any songs written for her”.  Followed by “Her Father was never President”.  It’s hard to get snarky about material that appears to parody itself but if anyone can do it, I know you can Kev!

Voted in 95% of every election and primary - atleast she votes

She goes into the booth, starts to pull the lever ... and then walks out.

Never had any songs written for her

If I write a song for her will she vanish in a puff of sulfur?

Nothing has been handed to her

At the dinner table she says “Pass the salt,” and her family says “Fuck you.”

Now I’ve got this song stuck in my head.

Make it stop!

Call me a kooky cat, but I like Whoppietown.

could get a much-needed post-election kick-up in traffic if one of the a-list blogs linked to it (*cough* Wonkette *cough*).

Should we have a rumproast Prowl! (Roar! HAKA!) Let’s flood Wonkette with emails until they link to rumproast, and if they don’t, we’ll give jenniforhillary their address and tell her they’ve got a giant stash of pork rinds and they HATE WOMEN!

This footage from PUMAPAC’s Christmas shindig should get that song out of your head, HTP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QitQrNRw6rE

That Mountainsong.

I understand the Republicans were passing around a similar version with Obama?

As far as I’m concerned, Wonkette is either FOR us or AGAINST us. And the longer they ignore us, the more obvious it becomes that they are ABSOLUTELY IN THE TANK for whatever it is that opposes Rumproast.

(I forget what that is: Dormammu? The Red Skull? Personal insincerity? Copper disease? Poor hygiene? Whatever, we need to assert ourselves in annoying and counterproductive ways, and I’ll be the first one in line if and when we sort that out.)

I smell a rat in that resume:

Waitress - working two jobs to make ends meet- she is the server, not the served
...
Doesn’t know any celebrities
...
Never accepted any money from Lobbyists - for real - NEVER

I want to see an IRS filing of her tip jar receipts STAT.

And Mr. K:

I mean, it’s right up there with, say, “Hey, Murphy! Let’s all take pictures of our vaginas and mail them to Chris Matthews’ wife”...

Link, please?

No No NO!!!

I mean the blog post where that was suggested.

Sheesh.

Erm ... Mr. K. = Mr. StrangeAppar8us in that above instance.

Yours, crosseyed and hungover, somewhere in cyberspace

yetanotherfreakingbrit: That, alas, was just a “f’rinstance”...although not fictionalized by much.

Everyone Else: Here, just to prove it can be done again and again:

RadFemme, on December 28th, 2008 at 4:24 am Said:

Right now, Ofraudo is letting the Palestinians gut Israel.

Right now, Ofraudo is tallying-up his take from the Wall Street bail-out.

Right now, Ofraudo is partying in Hawaii while Pakistan and India eye each other up for a nuke assault.

Gov. Patterson needs to stop right now and think about who owns him — the unstoppable Democratic money-machine that put him in power and could easily keep him there forever, or WE THE PEOPLE who SEE THRU THE BS when even a substantial majority of Americans voted otherwise.

Gov. Paterson has a choice — DO WHAT’S RIGHT, or do what we want him to. It’s THAT SIMPLE.

I hate to be that guy, but…

Do we have a computer graphics forensics experts?  You know we’re going to need one.

I give up. WHERE was Yul Brynner in that bizarre video clip?

BTW: I just happen to be an expert on digital computer imagery. Ask away!

Thank you! Very interesting

They appear to have given up moderating endorsements altogether for the time being over at Mediataters (sic). Witness:

Jenny, on December 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm Said:

Like Alice, I have watched your primaries from abroad. I didn’t witness Hillary’s nomination being stolen, but I’ll take her word for it as act of Sisterly Solidarity, and I believe Alice may know of its whereabouts.

Anyway, sure. Go Harriet! Just go!

Now there’s this among the endorsements:

MediaMatters, on December 28th, 2008 at 2:16 pm Said:

We have been made aware of your site, “www.mediamatters.com,” which purports to support the New York Senate candidacy of Harriet Christian. Our client, Media Matters for America (mediamatters.org), in no way supports said candidacy, and demands that you immediately take down the site and relinquish the domain name “www.mediamatters.com” or face legal action.

Anyone care to own up? I’m looking at you, “felicitas,” “Sarah S,” “Fatima Kunduklija,” “Stray Yellar Dawg,” and “Goldie.”

What? You mean they’re all for real?

That didn’t take long! I was given the message: “Navigation to the site has been cancelled.”

Now how will angrykittenz get to Whoppieville?

Incidentally, Harriet Christian’s resume: “Waitress”?

Can’t you just imagine her in her pink uniform behind the counter of a greasy spoon, slinging chipped mugs of gut-busting reboiled coffee? I knew I knew her from somewhere.

yetanotherfreakingbrit - Sadly it has disappeared, while the site remains up.  My legal staff will consider its next move.  Heh.

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