Life is sacred! Unless it is the life of someone related to someone with whom I disagree! Also the God I believe in has terrible aim, bibble bibble bibble, screech!

Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust

How the hell does that work? Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy so I can’t wrap my head around how one could survive it. Maybe it’s a very, very, very, small group.

I guess Gingi’s mother was prevented from having an abortion so she punished her child by naming it Gingi, which makes Gingi a Survivor of the Abortion Holocaust.

Why didn’t you post the entire article? Why didn’t you mention the prayer for him and the rest of his family? It’s easy to demonize someone when you take them out of context. And where did it say that God had anything to do with the accident? Since you say you are atheist, I assume you also don’t believe in Satan, or just ‘evil’? The belief that ‘you sow what you reap’ is just another way of saying ‘what goes around comes around’. There is evil in the universe, and when a man makes money off the mangled bodies of innocent pre-born babies, he’s just asking for some evil to visit him. He’s obviously turned his back on God, so, God left him and his family to their own devices. That’s like leaving your door unlocked as you leave town and shout across the street to your neighbors that you’ll be gone for a few days. You become a target.
Here’s another thing I’m sure you won’t understand…when you have seen a person’s face, prayed for them, known they were on a dangerous path, and then something happens to them, you feel it. I don’t know if I can put this any way someone as hateful has you sound will understand, but imagine if your friend was falling down drunk, you knew he shouldn’t drive, you knew he had bad tires on his car, AND you knew the bridge was out. If you TRIED to warn him, tried to stop him, and he still got away from you and the the worst happened…wouldn’t you feel a gut punch? As a Christian we love the sinner, hate the sin. Praying for this man and his family happened long before the accident…then again when the accident was first reported (without the names), prayed again…then, when it was announced just who it was…it was a dreaded feeling of, ‘maybe we should have tried harder’.

And even though Gingi isn’t with “Survivors” any longer, the name implies anyone born after 1973, when abortion on demand became legal. They are considered ‘survivors’ of the holocaust of our age…the genocide of over 50 million children.

Oh, and to Allan, Gingi is my second of 3 children with my husband of 25 years. I named her after a friend.

So, as Gingi’s original post mentions, hopefully this tragic event will illustrate to Dr. Feldkamp how precious life is, and he will end his association with the death brokers in these abortion mills.

God Bless.

Saxon: Why didn’t you post the entire article? Why didn’t you mention the prayer for him and the rest of his family? It’s easy to demonize someone when you take them out of context.

Well, I linked to the entire thing. (That’s one of those “internet traditions,” you know.) But to be honest, I didn’t find the so-call prayer for him and his family particularly exculpatory. It seems more about Gingi being righteous, imploring God to use the tragedy to bring the Feldkamps around to her point of view. But here it is:

I only hope and pray that in the face of this tragedy, Feldkamp recognizes his need for repentance and reformation. I pray that God will use this unfortunate catastrophe to soften the hearts of Bud and Pam and that they will draw close to the Lord and wash their hands of the blood of thousands of innocent children, each as precious and irreplaceable as their own.

I’ll leave it to our fair-minded readers to judge whether that “prayer” expresses Christian compassion for the Feldcamps.

Saxon: And where did it say that God had anything to do with the accident? [snip] He’s [Felkamp] obviously turned his back on God, so, God left him and his family to their own devices.

You just said it yourself too, genius. According to you, God left 4-year-old Taylor, 3-year-old Ava, 1-year-old Jude, 9-year-old Sydney, 7-year-old Christopher, 5-year-old Heiley and 3-year-old Caleb unprotected against evil because he [God] was pissed off at their grandfather. Nice imaginary friend you’ve got there, Saxon and Gingi.

Saxon: Here’s another thing I’m sure you won’t understand…[snip - blah-blah-blah - snip] As a Christian we love the sinner, hate the sin. Praying for this man and his family happened long before the accident…then again when the accident was first reported (without the names), prayed again…then, when it was announced just who it was…it was a dreaded feeling of, ‘maybe we should have tried harder’.

As a Jesus Camp refugee myself, I understand that mindset better than you think. The “love the sinner, hate the sin” line is invariably trotted out to justify condemnations issued with maximum self-righteous, and your use of it is no exception.

Gingi’s supposed “love” for the Feldkamps hardly comes through in the article. There’s not a scrap of compassion in it. On the contrary, it sounds like an ugly little sack dance in end zone of a devastated opponent. I’m sure she learned such behavior at your knee. Maybe you should both pray for a little humility and compassion.

Jesus Christ, there’s always some disgusting harlot who will make up excuses for anything, especially if it gives them an opportunity to contort yet another tragedy into somehow being all about them.

Please go play in traffic you’re giving sane Christians a bad name.

p.s. Hurricane Katrina had nothing to do with you either.

HTP, you nailed it—it’s all about them, and that’s the attraction. Their spiritual warfare fantasies allow them to imagine that they are not just some boring, ordinary people but are instead warriors on the front lines of the ultimate battle.

Gingi wonders if Feldkamp thought about her group’s warning as he looked at the crash site where his two daughters and several grandchildren perished. Well, probably not, Gingi.

My guess is he was consumed with anguish at the thought of never seeing his loved ones again. Or hoping they did not suffer. I think the last thing on his mind was a scrum of self-righteous screechers who used to infest his lawn. Asshole.

Saxon, let’s try a little hypothetical, shall we? You fetus fetishists love those so much, right? I’m sure you’re familiar with the old “Congratulations—you just aborted Beethoven!” line, which RC priests love to trot out in between diddling the post-born babies and paying out hush money to victims and their families that should actually be used to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and all that jazz. Funny they never talk about how one well-timed abortion could have spared the world Hitler and thus perhaps a real holocaust, but I digress.

So Saxon, you and Gingi and the other Archangels of Self-Appointed Righteousness are walking down the street and you notice a fire at a fertility clinic. Do you rush in to save the people who work there, or do you head right for the freezers to save all those pwecious-wecious “pre-born” petri dishes? What does your Imaginary Daddy Man in the Sky tell you to do in that situation? I mean, the people who work at the clinic are doing Satan’s work because some of those Petri babies could be disposed of eventually, right?

Oh hell, that one is probably too hard for you. Let’s try this: Do you believe in “adoption, not abortion?” If so, how many of your children are adopted? If the answer is “none,” then you seriously need to STFU, you hypocritical hateful faux-Christian piece of fail.

I too have a question for the “Archangels of Self-Appointed Righteousness”:

You take it as a given that the children and grandchildren involved with abortion are targets for the wrath of your pathetic version of God.

If we accept your theory, it must follow that what you call the unborn children of women who get abortions are also the victims of God’s wrath. My question is, doesn’t that make your attempts to stop abortions an attempt to prevent God’s will?

Right. Now go get a life before He drops a piano on you.

As a Christian we love the sinner, hate the sin.

It is a funny kind of love you and your daughter are expressing. I can think of a million ways to show love for Mr. Feldkamp that don’t involve writing and publishing an article blaming him for the deaths of his children and grandchildren, but then I’m not privy to the revealed truths of Jesus Christ. What is it about Christianists and their inscrutable god, that he only becomes scrutable when convenient to proving whatever idiotic point it is they want to prove?

P.S. Because I’m feeling particularly obnoxious today: Gingi is an awful name. Quite obviously, the incessant teasing she faced as a child have made her the gaping asshole she is today.

The belief that ‘you sow what you reap’ is just another way of saying ‘what goes around comes around’.

Right. OK, I’ll believe in a God of my own, then. One that smites self-righteous, hateful, hubristic people who choose to exploit a human tragedy involving innocents for the sake of saying “I told you so.”

Don’t take any walks outside if there’s any thunder and lightning forecast, if you know what’s good for you. What comes around goes around, you know.

So God woke up, saw a golden opportunity and swatted a planeful of kids out of the sky to get one guy inside it. Then went back to sleep and let bad things keep happening.

What, he couldn’t have given him a heart attack or something?

Stupid God.

OMG ABORTIONS CAUSE PLANE CRASHES??? RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

Disasters called “acts of God”, where innocents die in horribly, are explained away by the catch-all “He works in mysterious ways”. Until an opportunity to revel in the enemy’s misery presents itself. Then the mystery clears right up.

Any fundamentalist with a shred of genuine compassion, even believing whole-heartedly that every fertilized egg was a child with a soul, would still find Gingi’s opportunism and simple-minded revenge-fantasizing repellant. As an example,would C. Everett Koop dance on the graves of an abortion provider’s children?

What you say, Gingi, reflects your bloody-mindedness. You don’t seem to hold a very high opinion of God.

Judge not lest ye be judged——does that ring a bell with you?

Praying for this man and his family happened long before the accident…

My experience is that people who make a great show of praying “for” others would be far better off spending their time praying for themselves.

Funny how “God bless” when delivered by the likes of Saxon sounds remarkably like “Fuck you.”

There is only on universal truth that spans the belief systems:  Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

So it seems that if a tragedy of this magnitude were to happen to your family, you would be okay, nay, ecstatic to have others gloat at your tragedy (while pretending that said gloating was actually compassion).

An old college friend of mine used to go up to Operation Rescu idiots outside clinics and fuck with them by telling them that she was pregnant—with Satan’s baby. And everyone was telling her she had to abort, but she didn’t want to kill an innocent pre-born child and she knew that they helped people like her so would they pretty please help her out?

The look of sheer confusion in their eyes was priceless. Because of course they couldn’t quite discount it, since they fervently believe in an entity known as “Satan” and the “Anti-Christ,” so they were’t entirely sure they were being had.

And Allan, your observation is spot-on. When I used to do clinic defense and some of the fundies would get in my face with “Jesus loves you!” (subtext: “Even though you are a babykilling satanic piece of filth!”), I’d usually respond with “Then why hasn’t he paid his share of the rent?”

Oh, and Gingi.

The Fighting Fetus Fetishists also do not care for signs asking “What if Hitler’s mother had an abortion?”

No sir, they don’t like it.

It takes a special kind of asshole to name a kid “Gingi” and growing up with a name like will inevitably make you a special kind of asshole.

She sounds just about like the crazies at Westboro Baptist Church who think every dead soldier was killed because America is too kind to homosexuals.  Then they couch this psychotic rambling in the assurance that “We’re only telling you this out of love!  We love you enough to tell you the truth!  Oh, and if you hate us, well, good!  They hated Jesus, too!  So we MUST be doing something right!”

If you’re going to be that deluded, why not just go all the way and start preaching to yourself instead of annoying the rest of us.  You clearly have no regard for reality, so leave us out of it.

Her website has an email address and a phone number? Oh Gingi, you’re not terribly bright are you?

I wonder if she likes hardcore bestiality porn?

So, as Gingi’s original post mentions, hopefully this tragic event will illustrate to Dr. Feldkamp how precious life is, and he will end his association with the death brokers in these abortion mills.

God Bless.

So, as HumboldtBlue’s original comment mentions, Gingi is a supercilious twat who believes her omnibenevolent god kills innocents as punishment for another’s actions. I believe we call that blaming the child for the father’s sins, and in one sense, Gingi and the shitstains who gave birth to and raised her are spot on, because the incredibly silly, nonsensical belief system they subscribe to does punish all humans for the sins of two.

I also like how in defense of this heartless piece of shit Gingi calls an article, we get a prayer. What a fucking boatload of nonsense. The only way to recognize the sanctity of life is to see your children and grandchildren die a horrible death. Let’s hope Saxon never has to learn what it’s like to lose a son or daughter.

Oh, in response to your God Bless, fuck you.

Sincerely, HumboldtBlue

Hello, may I speak to Gingi please?

Yes, hi Gingi.  I need your home address and also that of your mother Aryan, er I mean Saxon.

Why?  Because my organization of Atheist Survivors of the Evangeliban plans on picketing outside your homes day and night holding giant photos of the charred bodies of children from plane crashes with signs saying “Praying for the death of children is MURDER!”

I had to file a police report against her for harrassment. Seriously. Sacramento County, Police Number 2009-1800589. Check it our if you don’t believe me. If you ask me, she and her family have some serious screws loose. Check out my blog, the third entry on the first page is about her, and I have crazy e-mails from her dated back months ago. She’s nuts.

I’m not warning you, she’s not harmful (all talk, you know the kind I’m tlaking about), just crazy, but still. I think it’s can be kind of nice to have the occasional laugh at the pro-lifers expense.

Lindsey K.

@ Saxon

As if your daughter’s pathetic Deus ex machina story isn’t enough you have to go mopping up her sick all over the Internet. With all due respect madam you and your daughter need to get a fucking life. It’s been nearly 40 years now and you still can’t sell the majority of people in America that abortion should be illegal. That either means that you and your kind are the worst salesmen in history not being able to convince 100% of a group that killing a fetus is bad or there is something inherent in a woman’s right to choose and to use birth control.

Who says all the loons in California are leftists??

Betty, thanks for the recognition that most Christians aren’t like this.  Gingi, Saxon, and their ilk comprise maybe 20-25% of Christians in the US, and that’s being generous.  I find Gingi to be extra revolting, as she simultaneously manages to be “supercilious twat” (great turn of phrase, HumboldtBlue!) and give a worthwhile belief system a bad name. 

It’s enough to make me adopt Sullivan’s “Christianism” label to distinguish these depraved idiots from mainstream Christians.

Saxon, you have raised an absolutely despicable child into this world - are you proud of what you’ve done?

JB, I deleted your comment.  Dial it back a little if you want to comment here.
Kthx,
The Hall Monitor