In a Spin of Epic Proportions Jindal’s Peeps Kinda, Sorta Admit He Lied - Blame Liberal Bloggers!

Via Zachary Roth writing for TPMMuckracker here and a follow-up here.

Portrait of a Liar/New Face of the Republican Party:

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So, if I’ve got this straight, first this is what Bobby Jindal said Tuesday night in his official Republican rebuttal to President Obama’s speech:

During Katrina, I visited Sheriff Harry Lee, a Democrat and a good friend of mine. When I walked into his makeshift office I’d never seen him so angry. He was yelling into the phone: ‘Well, I’m the Sheriff and if you don’t like it you can come and arrest me!’ I asked him: ‘Sheriff, what’s got you so mad?’ He told me that he had put out a call for volunteers to come with their boats to rescue people who were trapped on their rooftops by the floodwaters. The boats were all lined up ready to go - when some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn’t go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration. I told him, ‘Sheriff, that’s ridiculous.’ And before I knew it, he was yelling into the phone: ‘Congressman Jindal is here, and he says you can come and arrest him too!’ Harry just told the boaters to ignore the bureaucrats and start rescuing people.

“During Katrina”, right.  In other words, on the spot.  While the Katrina crisis was ongoing.  He, Bobby Jindal, visited the sheriff, heard him yelling at bureaucrats about boats and Jindal, personally, gave him, the sheriff, permission to tell them, the bureaucrats, that boats were going out to rescue folks no matter what they, the bureaucrats, had to say about it.  Thus making Jindal the hero of the day, right?  Not so right, apparently.

Not that some people weren’t kind of questioning this story from the start.  For one thing, as Roth notes, Jindal wasn’t even in the vicinity of New Orleans when this happened.  For another, the sheriff didn’t know about the problems with the boats until about a week later.  And for another, Jindal himself has previously told the story suggesting that he also was not aware of the boat situation until sometime after this all happened.

So, let the spinning begin.

 

Roth relates that earlier today Ben Smith writing in Politico posted a response from Jindal’s office that said:

It was in the days following the storm. Sheriff Lee was a hero who worked tirelessly to rescue those in danger, and he didn’t take kindly to bureaucrats getting in his way.

OK.  But that doesn’t really prove or disprove the story one way or another, does it?  No and Roth didn’t think so either and notes “Team Jindal probably would have been wise to leave things there. “

They didn’t.  So next Ben Smith followed up with this piece. in which Jindal’s spokespeep actually denies that Jindal says what he did on national teevee.  It gets confusing from here so I’ll just let Roth tell the story:

Jindal spokeswoman Melissa Sellers told Smith, “It was days later .. Sheriff Lee was on the phone and the governor came down to visit him. It wasn’t that they were standing right down there with the boats.”

Smith added:

  “She said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, “was doing an interview” about the incident with the boats when the governor described him yelling into the phone.”

In other words, Jindal only heard from Lee later that this had happened. He didn’t actually see it happening and played no role in it himself. We posted a few hours ago, noting that Jindal’s office had admitted the story was false.

But then things got weirder: Jindal’s people went back for yet more.

Smith soon posted an update explaining that he had misunderstood Sellers earlier. According to [Jindal Chief of Staff Jimmy]Teepell, Smith now wrote, rescue efforts were in fact still underway when Jindal met with Lee. And Jindal overheard Lee yelling on the phone to justify a decision he had previously made, not giving an interview about the episode, as Sellers’ earlier version had had it.

Sellers also insisted there was no difference between this account and the story Jindal told on Tuesday.  Smith’s final update from Teepell:

This is liberal blogger B.S. The story is clear.

So, what is it about the new GOP that distinguishes it from the old one?

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So, what is it about the new GOP that distinguishes it from the old one?

They’re finally getting called on their lies and they don’t know how to cope. That’s the only difference I see.

A Louisiana politician telling tall tales?

Stop the presses !!

Oh well, Hopey was shootin the moon a bit when he called for a cancer cure in ‘our time’.

Cancer is a category of illness that includes about a thousand diseases we know of, so far. I guess it depends on how you define ‘our time’.

Maybe he means before our species goes extinct.

Linear narratives have a well-known liberal bias.

Ya know, y’all might be slumdog homies an’ shit, all high-falutin’ murka-hatin’ glib-libs, but what the hell will beocme of our great land is a Republican can’t go around telling demonstrably false tales without getting called on it an’ shit by a bunch of murka-hatin’ glib-libs?

It’s like y’uns think you’re better ‘n everyone else or sumptin. I’m gonna call my buddy Joe and me, him and that really cute 13 year old are gonna kick all your dirty hippy asses.

File under “Mitt Romney Saw His Father Marching with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.”

This is liberal blogger B.S. The story is clear.

Yuh-huh. And those TM’s Foley sent out were the result of an elaborate LIEberul prank.

Has anyone claimed doubting Gov. Jindal’s tale amounts to racism yet?

No?

Wait a few minutes and then check.

Come to think of it, Jindal lied fairly skillfully, conflating simple past tense with complex or compound past tense. It seems to be a simple story of Jindal being in Lee’s office during the crisis, Lee telling him that the “boats were all lined up ready to go - when some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn’t go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration.” Simple past: I was there at the time.

But as Jindal’s staff backpedals, it’s now being presented as Jindal visiting Lee a week later, and Lee saying, you know what happened a week ago? “The boats were all lined up ready to go - when some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn’t go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration.” Complex past: I was talking to Lee a week after the storm, and he told me what had happened a week earlier.

The exact words support either version, and he’s too smart to have done that by accident. But maybe I’m over-analyzing. I live in New Orleans and am ROUTINELY suspicious of ANYTHING a politician says.

Has anyone claimed doubting Gov. Jindal’s tale amounts to racism yet?

Yes.  Moe Lane, the most angry and most loathesome of all wingnuts (except for all the rest).

The exact words support either version, and he’s too smart to have done that by accident.

No, they don’t really. And when you consider this was a prepared speech to the entire country there’s even less room for interpretation. The only question is whether Jindal is more or less of a putz than Mittens:

“If you look at the literature, if you look at the dictionary, the term ‘saw’ includes being aware of in the sense I’ve described,” Romney told reporters in Iowa. “It’s a figure of speech and very familiar, and it’s very common. And I saw my dad march with Martin Luther King. I did not see it with my own eyes, but I saw him in the sense of being aware of his participation in that great effort.”

Lies are always easier to tell when the corroborating party is well dead.  I guess it didn’t work out so well for Bobby

It’s really simple.

This story is Bobby Jindal’s rite of passage into the Republican Big Boys and Girls Club.

In order to be a member of the Republican Big Boys and Girls Club, you must make up a disprovable anecdote about your own life experience and tell it to the public as a foundation on which the public should trust you with elective office.

When your anecdote is challenged on the basis of factuality, you must stick to your anecdote and continue to repeat it no matter how thoroughly discredited it has become.

By so doing, you demonstrate to the Republican base that you can and will lie shamelessly and with knowledge aforethought about things for which no lie is even necessary.

This endears you to the Republican base, because their worldview is built upon proven falsehoods, and they must have clear evidence that you will lie to America in order to trust you with a position of power.

Ben Smith continues to carry the water for Piyush over on Politico.  He not long ago posted a useless video with no data of Sheriff Lee.  It’s like their PR Team is in a car lost, and they keep getting out to change drivers…hoping one of them will stumble upon the right way.

Losers

Let’s not forget a lot of Dems also have this personal story problem (Hillz).  Its the people that still follow them (Pumas) that worry me.  And they assume straight talks and other facts are clearly lies (citizenship).

If only he’d said “Thanks, but no thanks!”, he’d have gotten away with it.

Wow. I had actually missed this story, Marindenver. Thanks for sharing.

So why is it that Republicans like Jindal and Steele and Bachmann are talking the loudest smack/distorting the truth, do you think? Do you think they feel as though they have something to prove/have to work harder at being wingnuttier because they aren’t Caucasian or male?

Do you think they feel as though they have something to prove/have to work harder at being wingnuttier because they aren’t Caucasian or male?

No. Steele is heading up the RNC and the GOP thinks Jindal is the answer to Obama. Naturally they are in the spotlight more. Bachman is an attention whore and not very bright.

All you’re seeing is the natural result of what happens when any ReThug opens his (or her) mouth.

Oh look. Support for my theory, courtesy of Sam Broadback:

Initially, Brownback’s spokesperson claimed that the senator’s office “had never seen, heard of, or approved” the letter. Then Brownback’s office changed its story, saying that the letter had been approved by an unnamed, since-departed campaign aide. Then the story took another turn when the group that sent out the letter said the screed had been “sanctioned by Brownback.”

These people just can’t tell the truth.

My, my.  I suppose he needs to perform another exorcism.  Unless someone steps forward soon that can unify these dunderheads, the fracturing will continue, until there are only clusters of wingnuts left that comprise the party.

I really think that emphasizing the “Piyush” is the same kind of Beavis and Buthead douchebaggery as emphasizing the “Hussein” in BHO. Calling people by the name that they choose is a minimal gesture towards respecting them.

These dunderheads can still impose discipline that the stimulus barely passed.
Jindal and Palin both run states.
While we are making fun of them, we shouldn’t forget that they really do have a lot of power.

While we are making fun of them, we shouldn’t forget that they really do have a lot of power.

What is the point of this statement?  Does it have any point?  Arguably G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney had lots and lots of power too.  That never stopped me or anyone else from making fun of them.  Why would it?

And, yes, the dunderheads can still impose discipline on their loathsome minions.  Again, point?

You should be concerned about the GOP marindenver.

HTP, when they come for us I’m hiding behind you!

I’ll protect you ma’arm.

But I’ll need lots of sammiches to keep my strength up.

Shawn, the difference is that to Democrats, the “Piyush” is the best thing about him. Even though he’s ostensibly the Obama of the Right, it’s his right wingnut constituents that are looking at each other and saying, “Piyush?” and running to their Law of Nations to see what it says about babies conceived outside of the homeland, to non-citizen parents.

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