Obama-McCain Second Debate Open Thread—The Circling the Drain Edition

Look out, he’s gonna blow!!!

McCain & Palin—Circling the Drain

UPDATE:

That One

Here it is.

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Posted by Kevin K. on 10/07/08 at 07:00 PM • Permalink

Categories: NewsPoliticsElection '08Barack ObamaSt. McSameTelevision


OK, so where are you slackers hiding? Prolly secretly hoping Palin stops by to pay y’uns a visit. Goddamn Starburst Band out here ...

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:00 PM

I have to confess a past association. I once knew someone who was related to someone who play Patti Hearst in a movie. Sorry. It was 30 years ago.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:02 PM

How about John McCain? Hehhh? Hyehh? Hyehh?

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:03 PM

I do hope someone asks about family values.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 08:03 PM

I’m in...and I apologize for being absent the last couple of days.

For whatever reason, my day-job as a transplant organ farm tends to be seasonal, and there’s always a big run on spare parts in the fall.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:07 PM

McCain ... sheesh ... I think he’s gonna call for the firing of the guy who asked the question

MY FRIENDS ..... GULP!!!

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:08 PM

MY FRIENDS again .... GULP!!!

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:08 PM

Strange, can you get some hair for McCain, and maybe a new epidermis?

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:10 PM

Brokaw reminds them that they signed off on the rules. What a dumbass. Tom Brokaw ... the greatest failure. I hate Tom Brokaw, and he loves John McCain.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:12 PM

McCain is first to use the word “cronies.”

We’re heading for the toilet already.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:13 PM

McCain has the stage presence of a funeral-home greeter. I thought this was his preferred showcase, but I’m not seeing the magic.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:17 PM

Did they sedate McCain or something?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:17 PM

That’s because it’s always been bullshit Strange, it’s a creation of the media taken in durting 2000/.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:18 PM

He’s stiff. He looks about 80 years older than Bob Barker on his last day of Price is Right (with all apologies to Bob Barker).

But I dunno, maybe that’ll go over with the undecideds.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 08:18 PM

We’re the best importers in the world?  Or did I hear that wrong?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:18 PM

McCain has been in govt for 26 years, Obama on the natl level 4, so cranky ol’ dumbshit wants to know who she can trust. This is 8th grade bullshit.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:19 PM

He looks about 80 years older than Bob Barker

Oh please, Barack, please refer to McCain as Bob Barker.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:21 PM

I’m a fucking MAVERICK!!!  in a manner of speaking…

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:21 PM

Yes, Ripley, we import the HELL out of everyone else, and we factory-train more import technicians annually than any other country on earth.

I know a LOT of guys who work the import line down at the plant, and they are the salt of the earth.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:21 PM

Pork barrel earmarks like funding the VA, right, Johnny?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:22 PM

Fuck planetarium projectors! Fuck science! Knowledge is for old-women and bedwetters!

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:23 PM

Oh god. I love it when McCain talks about reaching across the aisle.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 08:24 PM

Privatize!  Did you know I was a POW and a maverick?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:24 PM

What’s the order of priority?

MCCAIN’S ANSWER: All at once.

Very thoughtful.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:25 PM

Good answer - energy & health care first

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:27 PM

And then he mumbles.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:27 PM

Sacrifice the wolves in Alaska. Hyehhhhh?

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:28 PM

Definitely, John seems like he’s gasping for breath, and he’s moving around like a damaged robot.

Content be damned—Obama seems young, confident and engaged. J-Mac wants to project earnest seriousness, but he’s coming across as they guy who had to explain to the passengers on the Titanic why there weren’t enough lifeboats for everyone.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:29 PM

Jesus fucking christ waving a white flag ... enough with the fucking earmarks already you blithering old fart. Fuck earmarks pay for my roads, for my county’s schools and for health care. So fuck off you cretin, and I mean that lovingly.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:30 PM

Oh, and if he badmouths planetarium equipment one more time, I’m going to punch the screen.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:30 PM

Obama? Fuck you and your clean coal bullshit. Motherfuckers still have to dig it up, and lemme tell ya Mr. Harvard pants, there aint no goddamned thing about that that is clean.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:33 PM

They both kind of glanced off that sacrifice question

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:35 PM

Here we go.  Johnny lying about the tax plan.  What took so long?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:36 PM

After 6 rounds: Obama: 3 McCain: 1 Tie: 2

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 08:38 PM

WTF Brokaw?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:38 PM

Yeah, no good answers on sacrifice.

However, J-Mac is doing a tremendous impression of William Loman...which is not what he wants to be doing.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:38 PM

Sorry. I meant “Willy Loman.” attention has been paid.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:39 PM

Yeah, that health care tax credit McCain’s offering sucks. Goodbye work-provided health insurance. Hello shitty insurance that covers nothing. I’m hoping Obama’s going back to that.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 08:39 PM

Has McCain really answered a question?

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 08:41 PM

Obama is back to the 40-second wind-ups that hurt his performance in primary debates. Tighten it up, Barack

That’s a quote from the GOS ... what the fuck is this social security is in trouble bullshit? Fuck, how many times do we have to hear the same old bullshit?

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:41 PM

Fuck that maverick bullshit.  What the hell has he ever actually done?  Christ…

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:41 PM

Fuck your vision, pally!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:42 PM

Has McCain really answered a question?

Nope.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:43 PM

Yes, he answered every question: “CUT SPENDING” (except for defense)

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 08:44 PM

I was on a ship that used nuclear power ... and when it had a catastrophic fire I ran downstairs and hid out while my plane’s captain burned to death. Then I took some much needed R&R;in Saigon. So fuck you America.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:45 PM

I think the majority of this tax discussion is going to come across as a spreading fog to the average viewer. Sort of like Gore and Bush going at each other about school vouchers.

I’m grading on an impressionist scale. McCain seems needy and grasping. Obama isn’t pleading. I know which one I;d buy a used car from.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:45 PM

Yeah, but Obama said “um”!

McCain is making my ears bleed.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:47 PM

This has bogged down into wonky bullshit, I agree Strange ... in fact, it’s infuriating because this shit doesn’t do a goddamned thing to change the conversation. The talking heads will drone on and on about how they got stuck on dry tax and budget issues.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:47 PM

100,000 garages FTW!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:48 PM

Fuck you, my friend!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:49 PM

That one?

Do you mean the nigger senator McCain?

Fuck you, you’re not drilling off my coast you incontinent shitbird.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:49 PM

Dam, back to “records”. Does Macain REALLY want us to review the “record”?

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 08:50 PM

I was on a ship that used nuclear power ... and when it had a catastrophic fire I ran downstairs and hid out while my plane’s captain burned to death.

Come now, he watched it all on the closed circuit TV down below!  I’m sure he cared as he watched them all burn.

Comment by Rebecca on 10/07/08 at 08:50 PM

Nice one...’Bama!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 08:52 PM

From Think Progress ...

9:40: Brokaw editorialized that we can all agree in a “bipartisan way” that entitlement programs are “a big ticking time bomb.” In fact, in 2005 – as President Bush tried to “reform” Social Security with a privatization scheme – “barely one in four Americans believe[d] that a crisis exists.” (UPDATE: As Paul Krugman explains, “No matter how many times you try to kill the mythical Social Security crisis, it just keeps coming back.”)

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:52 PM

The fucking question was about what government would do? Is it just me? Am I as stupid as I seem?

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:53 PM

McCain doesn’t understand how the insurance industry works.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:54 PM

Obama keeps looking at McCain like a kid who just poured a box of Sea Monkeys into a fish-tank. It’s like he’s waiting for J-Mac to give birth to a chest-burster.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:54 PM

McCain’s always concerned about govt mandates ... excepot for the one that has given him govt health care from the time his momma squeezed his dumb ass out.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:56 PM

Did they sedate McCain or something?
Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 10:17 PM

They should never have drugged McCain. Well said.

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 08:56 PM

9:54: McCain said he would give every family a $5,000 tax credit to buy health insurance. But McCain’s credit would not cover the average price of a family health care plan. According to the latest Kaiser Foundation Benefits Survey, “premiums for employer-sponsored health insurance rose to $12,680 annually for family coverage” in 2008.

More TP

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 08:57 PM

I like how McCain praised the French on nuclear power.  Everyone’s supposed to hate the French, silly!

Comment by Rebecca on 10/07/08 at 08:58 PM

Yes!  Crack down on the insurance companies.  Good one!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 08:58 PM

Obama probably shouldn’t have mentioned Delaware. ;-(

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 08:59 PM

Did the McCain camp READ that survey?

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 08:59 PM

Yeah, like that great Soviet economy of the last 100 years.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:00 PM

Obama probably shouldn’t have mentioned Delaware. ;-(
Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:59 PM

Maybe not, but it was accurate.

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:00 PM

Obama aced that health insurance question. I think the tax issue was a bit muddy--maybe a little over the head of some viewers--but I think he won the health care round.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 09:00 PM

I wonder if he’ll tell us he knows how to win wars.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:01 PM

Bam!  Take the gloves off, brother!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:02 PM

Another thing, if I hear one more time about how Obama is tight with terrorists and their suppoerters, I’m going to get arrested when I start flashing those loving pics of Bush with his cousins from Saudi Arabia.

You’ve heard of saudi Arabia, home to Islam and the birthplace of 19 men who flew planes in to the WTC.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:03 PM

After 10 Rnds - Obama: 6 McCain: 2 Tie: 2

@ rounds to go.

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:04 PM

Dam fingers! 2 rounds even

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:04 PM

ETHNIC CLEANSING IS HOW THE FUCKING SURGE WORKED YOU NIMROD!!!

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:05 PM

I thought the surge worked because we handed out free cash.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:06 PM

John! That horse is DEAD!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:06 PM

Christ, Maliki wants a date for withdrawal.  The damned Bush administration is setting timetables to pull troops out.

Fucker!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:06 PM

McCain needs pudding. Please get him pudding.

Please?

Comment by Kevin K. on 10/07/08 at 09:07 PM

The motherfucker’s more worried about his legacy than Bush is.  Jeebus…

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:07 PM

My subjective ruling: America is watching Dwight Frye (as Renfield) debate Sidney Poitier (circa “Lillies of the Field"). This not going to help McCain.

After the first 10-12 repetitions, “my friends” is really sounding like Kriswell’s opening monologue to “Plan 9.”

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:08 PM

Nikkei down 460, for you end-of-the-world observers.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:09 PM

Fuckin’ A!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:10 PM

After the first 10-12 repetitions, “my friends” is really sounding like Kriswell’s opening monologue to “Plan 9.”

That’s because you can hear the fatigue and it manifests itself in repetition. McCain was very nervous, it was obvious in his short breaths and hurried answers. In fact, he’s making less and less sense as this goes on.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:11 PM

He’s lost his fucking mind.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:11 PM

He didn’t say attack Pakistan!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:12 PM

The motherfucker’s more worried about his legacy than Bush is.  Jeebus

Spot on.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:12 PM

Food fight on follow-ups! Gobama!

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:13 PM

Nooooo, don’t get dragged down into the Pakistan thing, damnit!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:13 PM

Hit him again, Barack!  Again!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:14 PM

The gloves are off! Go get ‘em, Bama!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:14 PM

Obama is kicking the old fucker’s ass now.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:14 PM

Bomb bomb bomb Iran! Annihilation of North Korea!

Yo mama, J-Mac!

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:14 PM

Grandpa’s getting defensive.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:15 PM

WTF?!!!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:16 PM

I fucking knew!!! he’d fall back on “I know how to...”

Really, John?  How?  How do you know these things?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:16 PM

Because he remembers Pearl Harbor.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:17 PM

Criswell or McCain? You make the call:

“Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown… the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?”

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:17 PM

LMAO

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:17 PM

The fuck?  Does McCain ever read a newspaper?  Has he been sleeping the last eight years?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:19 PM

Pay-off the local Tribes, as mentioned earlier worked, NOT more lives sacrificed, you fucking Bozo!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:19 PM

That’s fucking funny strange.

Also, let me tell you why this Afghani talk is pure bunkum. Those motherfuckers are the baddest asses this side of the IDF. You’re not gonna control Afghanistan, no one ever could and no shit spewed out by either of these two clowns is gonna change that fact. Bush has fucked us all so hard we’re gonna be talking about this bullshit for the next decade ... and beyond.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:20 PM

Oh, yeah. Invading Georgia was totally out-of-bounds for nations that should respect the idea of sovereignty. Alert the Irony Police.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:21 PM

Don’t worry about Putin. Sarah Palin is watching him from Wasilla.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:21 PM

GOS is saying that CNN’s live graph is giving the debate to Obama.  Huzzah!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:21 PM

This is absurd. Utterly absurd. Gte off the oil and the Middle East problems go away. Stay with the oil and we’re still owned by the Saudi Caliphate.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:21 PM

Caliphate

Oh, yeah, $10.00 Word Award

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:23 PM

Humboldt—I agree. So does the Pentagon. These are guys who gave Alexander the Great a run for his money. And McCain should know, because he’s been there, and he knew Alexander.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:23 PM

Maybe hehhhhehehe?

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Grandpa farted ... he’s so funny.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:24 PM

more from TP ...

10:06: McCain just said that if we’d withdrawn from Iraq, Iranian influence would have increased and Al Qaeda would have set up a base. Both of these things happened because we invaded Iraq.

10:03: Discussing when to intervene militarily, McCain mentioned Kosovo. Back in 2000, McCain referred to the conduct of the Kosovo intervention as “the most obscene chapter in recent American history.”

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:25 PM

Motherfucker I was a goddamned 11 Bravo, fuck you and your thank you’s, we don’t want thank you’s we want sane, rational leaders and at this point Grandpa Screaming at the Clouds, .... motherfucking piece of shit.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:26 PM

McCain on Israel/Iran: “Fuck if I know.”

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:26 PM

God, if I hear the word ‘precondition’ one more time this year…

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:26 PM

Didn’t answer the question, did he?

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:27 PM

Neither of them did

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:28 PM

Obama: “Ditto.” The Curse of AIPAC strikes again.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:28 PM

The obvious answer is that we should flood Iran with degenerate rock’n’roll music and copies of Maxim, so that we can destroy them from within.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:30 PM

Can McCain squeeze Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright into his answer?  Bets?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:31 PM

I’d add pancakes on a stick ... Paula Deen, Madonna, Andy dick, Creed, Toby Keith, Lady de Shit For Brains and Pet Rocks.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:31 PM

"Without preconditions?” DID HE JUST SAY WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS? Holy SHIT! I’m assuming the drop, duck, and hide my head under my hands beneath my desk position. I didn’t know that! I’m changing my vote to McCain!

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 09:32 PM

Man, Ican only hope that McCain whips out the fake COLB and the “whitey” tape, right here and now.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:32 PM

I know what all of us don’t know ... oh fucking jesus

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:32 PM

Grandpa farted again.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:33 PM

We’re DOOMED, Lady P - DOOOMED!

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:34 PM

He’ll put us back in the fight. OMFG. What an worthless piece of shit.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:34 PM

Good God. The last time I met a man who sounded like John McCain right now, he was begging to blow me in the Greyhound Station.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:34 PM

I scored it Obama 143, McCain 0.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:35 PM

Other than hastening my beer consumption, that was a waste of time.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:35 PM

Great, here comes Brooks…

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:35 PM

I scored it Obama 143, McCain 0.

Commie.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:36 PM

Goodnight Mr. Obama! Goodnight, Bob Barker’s great-great-grandfather! Now for the analysis.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 09:36 PM

poputonian—I concur. It was a rout.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:36 PM

Final Scorecard:

Obama: 8 McCain: 2 Even: 2

Decision: Obama

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:37 PM

I mean, am I the only one who thought McCain was downright CREEPY, like a paid griever?

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:38 PM

McCain could have stayed home.  Or rushed off to some other city to act Presidential !

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:39 PM

It was never going to be close. McCain sounded the same trumpets, beat a tattoo on the same drums and appeared as he always does, a man whose ambitions far outstrip his qualifications.

Hmm ... seems like I’ve seen that somewhere before.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:39 PM

RussD—Thanks for endeavoring to be impartial.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:40 PM

Michael Gerson calls it for McCain.  Well, that’s that I guess.  Might as well stay home on Nov 4.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:40 PM

McCain is a sick creepy fuck. PTSD couple with the onset of dementia.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:40 PM

No problem, Strange, I do try. Here’s a first poll....

http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2008/10/07/1966 479-who-did-the-best-job-connecting-with-the-crowd?votedOpti onId=25784

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:43 PM

My feeling is that they’ll all say McCain won, because it’s in the media’s interest to even the race out. I have no idea what the undecided voters will say. They baffle me.

The other day a friend told me he mixed watermelon vodka and coffee and drank a whole glass. I asked him why, and he said he wanted liquor and coffee both. I asked what it tasted like, and he said, it was all he could do while he drank it not to vomit it back up. I said, why didn’t you just enjoy them separately? And he said, he just really wanted liquor and coffee in one drink.

That is what I think of the undecided voter: I’ll just never understand.

Comment by Lady Penelope on 10/07/08 at 09:44 PM

OK, one other thing, this whole pairing of Maddow and Racist Buchanan might be cute for those in the new biz, but it’s a travesty for the watching audience.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:44 PM

I didn’t catch the language at the moment.  Did McCain actually call Obama ‘that one’?

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:45 PM

Maddow is OK, I have never really liked Buchanan.

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:45 PM

pairing of Maddow and Racist Buchanan

Couldn’t agree more. I switched to CNN the moment she said my friend Pat Buchanan. Of course, you know what CNN stands for.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:45 PM

Yes, Ripley, he did.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:46 PM

Ripley,

Oh yes he did.

Comment by billy delyon on 10/07/08 at 09:47 PM

I didn’t catch the language at the moment.  Did McCain actually call Obama ‘that one’?

Fuck yeah he did, and he was looking the other way when he said it and casually stuck his finger in Obama’s direction while he said it.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 09:47 PM

Jeebus… he needs some serious medical evaluation.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:47 PM

Ya, Ripley.....he sure did.

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:47 PM

Fuck. Darragh Murphy’s Poop-Flinging Monkey House of Terror calls the debate 100% for McCain.

I guess I was wrong. Never mind.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 09:51 PM

poll on msnbc

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/#scroll_live-vote

Comment by Rebecca on 10/07/08 at 09:51 PM

McCain farted twice, Obama zero.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:52 PM

That’s weird, the poll on newsvine is the msnbc poll and it let me vote again.

Oopsie.

Comment by Rebecca on 10/07/08 at 09:54 PM

When I saw Puffy McJowls refer to Obama as “that one”, I started wondering how long it’d be until he said “you people”.  I guess he’s saving that one for the next debate.

Comment by Cello on 10/07/08 at 09:56 PM

Someone please stuff something down David Gregory’s throat. He’s carrying McCain’s water on his mortgage relief suggestion.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 09:56 PM

That MSNBC poll is running 85-89% for Obama.

Comment by Ripley on 10/07/08 at 09:58 PM

I’m diggin’ for others, I’m diggin’!

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 09:59 PM

Puffy McJowl

Love it. Alvin the Chipmunk in old age.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:00 PM

That’s it. I’m voting for McCain because he calls me “friend,” and Obama is a Kenyan citizen.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:00 PM

Olbermann leads off with a “that one” reference.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:00 PM

Gotta love Kieth

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 10:02 PM

Drudge has it down cold for McCain. I just joined PUMA and started signing my emails with a file photo of an angry kitten.

I suggest we all face the fact that John McCain was a supercharged dynamo of conviction and irrefutable fact tonight, as well as an American hero and a guy who really knows how to bag rich models. And besides, Barry’s a Muslim who hangs out with unrepentant terrorists.

And that’s not even counting the incredible Wowee! factor that is Sarah Palin.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:05 PM

Drudge.....ok. (shakin’ ma head...)

Comment by RussD on 10/07/08 at 10:09 PM

Drudge has it down cold for McCain

I am shocked and amazed at this turn of events! :-|

Comment by Rebecca on 10/07/08 at 10:10 PM

This one is on TPM.  Watch the classy McCain in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak

Comment by Cello on 10/07/08 at 10:11 PM

And besides, Barry’s a Muslim who hangs out with unrepentant terrorists.

And don’t forget his personal endowment, which makes many Republicans look bad.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:11 PM

I think Obama won handily (with no claims to objectivity, naturally). Things that stuck out in my mind: McCain’s repeated “I know how to do...” XYZ. Winning a war, getting Osama, dealing with the economy, working in a bipartisan manner—whatever the topic, his refrain is that He. Knows. How. Extremely paternalistic.

Obama’s big moment in my opinion was the response on the Pakistan issue. McCain set himself up for it with the “talk softly and carry a big stick” line, and then Obama used McCain’s own words to show that he’s really a blustering, saber-rattling bully. Perfect.

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think McCain is the big town hall master he’s cracked up to be. His tone when interacting with the serfs reminded me of how a person who doesn’t really like or understand children sounds when forced to read a bedtime story. He gets this sing-songy, insincere cadence. I guess that’s what passes for warmth? I don’t get it.

Comment by Betty Cracker on 10/07/08 at 10:13 PM

I was going to recommend Todd Rundgren’s new “Arena” CD to Kevin K. as a “Swing to the Right” for 2008. But I no longer trust my own judgment.

Is it too late to send money to Phil Berg? And will Hillary still be eligible to run if Obama is disqualified? I’m so confused.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:14 PM

Oh, Betty—hold me. I don’t know what to do!

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:17 PM

pop—My ideal debate scenario would have ended with Obama saying, “There’s only one way to settle this, Senator. It’s time to hang pork.”

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:18 PM

His tone when interacting with the serfs reminded me of how a person who doesn’t really like or understand children sounds when forced to read a bedtime story. He gets this sing-songy, insincere cadence. I guess that’s what passes for warmth? I don’t get it.

Thank you. I could not form the words to describe that tone but it hit me harder and harder as the debate wore on. He was like the earnest Uncle who really, really wants you to register as a Republican for the good of the country.

Then you find out that Uncle John was raided by the Feds who found links to kiddie porn on his computer.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 10:20 PM

Hehe ~ I think that’s why McCain is so angry. Cindy keeps asking him if “it’s true, what they say about, you know ... “

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:20 PM

pop—Time for a “Godfather” reference. “They call this guy ‘Superman.’”

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:26 PM

I just added the “that one” youtubey up top, for posterity.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:31 PM

From my dear friends at Red State ...

[UPDATE]: One other thought, as triggered by something I saw over NRO: ye gods but were those questions dull.

McCain got some good shots in with Fannie/Freddie, Obama got a good moment or two betraying the progressives over nuclear power, offshore drilling, and Israel; I’ll give the closing statement to McCain, but Obama humanizes amazingly when he’s talking about his wife. No insanely bad howlers this go-round. This was, in fact, kind of boring all around.

So, I’m going to say that things are unchanged, which is advantage: Obama. On the bright side, I called the first two debates for the GOP, so for all I know this is going to turn out to be EPIC WIN for McCain.

Moe Lane

PS: I’m not depressed, however. I can live with a bye.

I am positively, absolutely, unbendingly sure that one Ms. Monica “Soon to be Erickson, hee hee” Goodling will have some serious issues with your bye-love.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 10:31 PM

John King of CNN is an insufferable prick.

Comment by Betty Cracker on 10/07/08 at 10:33 PM

John King of CNN is an insufferable prick.

Not compared to Gregory he aint.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 10:38 PM

At the risk of being redundant, this was for me not the “second” debate but the “last” debate.

Near as I can tell, the Web response ranges from “boring” to “at least Sydney didn’t shit himself.” Even the PUMAs are struggling to paper-over John McCain’s eerie resemblance to Joel Cairo.

I see a steady downhill arc for Hanoi Xian from here on in, although I am obviously and unashamedly biased.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:39 PM

Time for a “Godfather” reference

Or Dolemite.

What?

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:40 PM

I think we can run with Hanoi John.

I like that.

Then again, I hate you, America, fundamentals and reform.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 10:44 PM

pop—I’ll see your Dolemite and raise you JizzMaster Zero from “Orgazmo.”

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:45 PM

I call. Rudy Ray Moore, the uniquely articulate pimp. Heh-heh.

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:51 PM

Overheard at Hullabaloo:

digby: Tonight’s drinking game word is “crisis.” I hope you have a 12 pack.

K. Daniels: Wrong, tonight’s drinking-game phrase is “overhead projector”

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 10:52 PM

Humboldt—You seem bitter and depressed. Let me have your pain. Best regards, Sybok. ;-

Oh, and don’t thank me for “Hanoi Xian.” Thank Earl Mac Ruach and “Buckaroo Banzai.” .

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:53 PM

pop—I fold. The pot is yours. Just damn.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:54 PM

Wow, Buchanan faced up and called it for Obama ... of course, that’s when he was confronted by McCain’s own words, gestures and general demeanor.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 10:54 PM

Seriously—I WRITE those fucking planetarium shows. John McCain can kiss my ass if he thinks that money is a waste.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 10/07/08 at 10:57 PM

What’s amazing is how enthusiastic he was in thinking that people give a fucking shit about a three-thousand dollar projector in Chicago. He really is everybody’s angry grandfather, or the grandpa who is overly excited because he got the spot remover on sale. Yipeee!

Comment by poputonian on 10/07/08 at 11:01 PM

Why does this McCain could have thrown a knockout punch with Ayers meme get any traction?

McCain can’t go to issues of character, unless, and you saw it repeatedly tonight, he’s the one doing the talking.

McCain can not go to these so-called knockout punches because he knows damn well that if he does, Obama hits him like Ali hit Liston.

Regulation of housing and banks? Keating 5.

Try to turn to your record time and time again and watch as your opponent takes it head-on and responds with more detail, knowledge and pizazz?

MSNBC is hating on McCain, even Roger simon is laughing out loud at McCain’s persona.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 10/07/08 at 11:10 PM

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think McCain is the big town hall master he’s cracked up to be.

Yeah, McCain’s big moment supposedly was when he “related” to the serviceman who asked him a question.  Otherwise he did not seem to relate to the audience at all.  While Obama was open and pretty relaxed.  Talked about the, hello, MIDDLE CLASS (us being some of them) while McCain didn’t say a word about us.  And what was up with the McCains exiting the building immediately afterwards while Obama and Michelle hung around for an hour or so talking to people and taking pictures?  Does one candidate relate to voters more maybe, hmmm?  I suppose Say-rah Failin will still be trying to arouse her Rottweiler base to go after Obama tomorrow but I think it may have less effect after the McCain Fail tonight.

Comment by marindenver on 10/08/08 at 01:15 AM

Obama wins.  McCain loses.  Brokaw fails.

Comment by Allan on 10/08/08 at 01:28 AM

Betty Cracker, swear to god I said the same thing about McCain and that ridiculous sing-song cadence he had going on. That was as irritating as Palin’s “g-droppin” folksy crap. McCain was like Mr Rogers on a mind-altering drug; flaky and beady-eyed.

And when he pointed behind his hand to Obama with, “that one”, I was completely creeped out.

Comment by donnah on 10/08/08 at 10:54 AM
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