Obama Talks, Sarah Squawks: America’s Back-Seat Driver Can’t Let Go of the Hate

Well, this was inevitable. In her latest diurnal emission, Sarah shames the Framers with her trademark “It may be Constitutional, but it just ain’t right” re-imagining of America’s Founding Principles, as revised, amended, footnoted and circumscribed by T. Herman Zweibel, with a codicil by Glenn Beck—Legitimate Questions for the President:

Mr. President, should they or should they not build a mosque steps away from where radical Islamists killed 3000 people? Please tell us your position. We all know that they have the right to do it, but should they? And, no, this is not above your pay grade. If those who wish to build this Ground Zero mosque are sincerely interested in encouraging positive “cross-cultural engagement” and dialogue to show a moderate and tolerant face of Islam, then why haven’t they recognized that the decision to build a mosque at this particular location is doing just the opposite? Mr. President, why aren’t you encouraging the mosque developers to accept Governor Paterson’s generous offer of assistance in finding a new location for the mosque on state land if they move it away from Ground Zero? Why haven’t they jumped at this offer? Why are they apparently so set on building a mosque steps from what you have described, in agreement with me, as “hallowed ground”? I believe these are legitimate questions to ask.

Two can play that game, my little Nudnik of the North. So let’s consider some Legitimate Questions for Sarah Palin:

♦ Do you have a Plan for America, or are you content to snipe from the shadows with no responsibility for your actions?
♦ Since you believe tolerance, reconciliation and healing are Bad for America, are you embracing divisive, polarizing fear-mongering as an acceptable substitute?
♦ Do you intend to run for President in 2012, or simply continue to milk your supporters’ hopes that you’ll run in order to leverage lucrative Celebrity Speaking Gigs, Book Deals, TV Contracts and donations to your PAC?
♦ Should you decide to run for President, will Todd cancel his snow-machine team’s financial sponsorship by Venezuela’s Citgo petroleum group?
♦ Do you believe that running America would be a) more or b) less challenging than running your mouth?

Feel free to add your own Legitimate Questions in comments.

Posted by StrangeAppar8us on 08/14/10 at 06:32 PM • Permalink

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So let me get this straight…

a “small-government”, “private-market”, “pro-religious-values” “conservative” is in favor of a plan for a state-government to provide land/funding to build a house of worship as opposed to them paying for it themselves on available land of their choosing?

my question is this: if the choice were for the taxpayers of new york to pay higher taxes to execute this… or for the original site be used.. which would Sarah Palin support?

@Michael—Apparently, Sarah believes that New York City’s taxpayers should donate free land for the construction of Jihadi Training Outposts.

By my reckoning, that makes her a Dhimmi of the First Magnitude.

I think the Fox News pundits saying that Obama was right to cite the Constitution on this has finally driven her and her team of FB and Twitter writers totally barking mad. Either that or she’s ODed on the oxycontin. She’s sent out six Tweets of increasing desperation in the last two hours.

For her (and for Mansour, who’s responsible for at least some of them), that’s hard work.

Never has someone’s pay so outstripped her pay grade.

Aaand it wouldn’t be Saturday without the sound of wingnut heads exploding:

Panama City, Florida (CNN) – In a boost for President Obama on a red-hot controversy, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist told CNN Saturday that he fully supports Obama’s decision to back construction of an Islamic center and mosque near New York’s ground zero.

“I think he’s right - yeah,” Crist, who was elected governor as a Republican but is now running for Senate as an independent candidate, told CNN. “We are a country in my view that stands for freedom of religion. You know, respect for others. I know there are sensitivities and I understand that, but I think Mayor Bloomberg is right and I think the President is right.”

Also, probably leading to more minor repercussions:

A former senior Bush aide, chief speechwriter Michael Gerson, told POLITICO last night that he supports Obama’s decision.

“An enormously complex and emotional issue—but ultimately the right thing to do,” Gerson said. “A president is president for every citizen, including every Muslim citizen. Obama is correct that the way to marginalize radicalism is to respect the best traditions of Islam and protect the religious liberty of Muslim Americans. It is radicals who imagine an American war on Islam. But our conflict is with the radicals alone.”

Legitimate Question for Sarah:

What makes you believe that you are qualified to offer any commentary or criticism whatsoever on any matter related to America’s history, Constitution, foreign policy, or domestic policy? (FYI: Serving half a term as Alaska’s governor and being a failed vice presidential candidate don’t count.)

By my reckoning, that makes her a Dhimmi of the First Magnitude.

Excellent.  Sarah: “They’re in sympathy with our enemies!  They may be working to destroy us from within.  So don’t allow them to establish their shadowy terror network node THERE.” 

(beat)

“Put them HERE.”

Typical liberal- instead of considering those legitimate questions, you instead ask Palin a bunch of questions. Even after she answered those, you’d still duck and dodge and demand more and more and more, and never answer her questions- because you can’t, and Obama can’t. He can’t answer why he supports an extremist imman building a victory center on the site of 9/11.

Hmm. Maybe take a leaf out of your own book, “Teacher”:

Another important technique for building or encouraging a conservative-friendly classroom is to remember that all government in the United States begins and ends with the Constitution. So every lesson that you begin and end should also begin and end with the Constitution.

And “victory center”? I pity your students.

an extremist imman building a victory center on the site of 9/11.

If you seriously believe this sort of cartoon horseshit, I hope you teach Wood Shop.

I wouldn’t let you anywhere near an actual classroom. But there are only so many ways to fuck up a bookshelf or a tripod lamp.

Brit—Where do they grow these frightened yahoos? Jeez.

Conservative Teacher, when the Kwittin’ Image considers “So what magazines do you read?” a GOTCHA question, asking her anything is pretty much useless.

However, perhaps you might consider unrolling and actually reading that Constitution you enjoy waving around so much.

BTW, How do we know you’re a teacher? Where’s your certificate? The printing looks suspicious. That seal isn’t raised—it’s Photoshopped! You can see the signature is faked!

I’d like to reassure our visitors and commenters that “A Conservative Teacher” is not a wicked spoof cooked up by us for the page hits. This “Teacher” does indeed wander round the web castigating others for their conduct if they dare to speak ill of her BFF Palin while offering endless hilarity of the hypocritical variety:

Is this what passes for intelligent commentary? You’re an idiot. Is that deep or something? Oh, I suppose you think calling someone an idiot who already was called an idiot is smart and sophisticated- whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess. I suppose that way you never have to listen to her, rebute her arguments, or pretend that women are equal with men. Just call her an idiot, or a stupid girl, or a dumb nigger, or whatever makes you feel superior to other people- I know you are all in favor of reporters doing that after they interview other people. Idiots, you and your idiot reader of your idiot blog.

Most of us get over the crush stage in adolescence. I come from teacher stock. You’re an embarrassment to your profession.

rebute her arguments

Christ! Snooki’s Dyslogia is a communicable disease!

rebute her arguments

I’d have gone with refut.

It’s an editor thing.

Isn’t the correct form “refude”?

It’s an irregular verb.

I expertly refute.

She refudiates.

They talk a load of old cobblers.

And not wishing to beat a dead horse, but WTF is an “imman”?!

Wow, clever… attack the messanger, call me names, and demand to see my certificate- those are in the liberals bag of tricks too.

The Constitution never says one thing about ‘wall of separation of church and state’, so don’t try to bring up that garbage. That is a liberal interpretation of the 1st amendment that derives from a letter that Jefferson wrote years after, and I disagree with both the meaning and its current use today. So don’t try to turn the Constitution around on me- I know it better than that and hold true to it, unlike you, who only use it when it serves your purposes.

It really upsets me that you all cheer building a mosque on this site for the purposes of celebrating 9/11. There are dozens of other mosques in New York, and this particular one is being built by a radical whose beliefs I hope you do not support. Or maybe you are just stupid and ignorant of all of this and just support anything our Dear Leader does because you are sheep?

The Constitution never says one thing about ‘wall of separation of church and state’

Neither did Obama…or any of us.

So don’t try to turn the Constitution around on me- I know it better than that and hold true to it

So what does the Constitution say about building a religious community center on private property? Think hard before you answer.

There are dozens of other mosques in New York,

This isn’t a mosque.

and this particular one is being built by a radical whose beliefs I hope you do not support.

You mean the radical who was one of the Bush Administration’s outreach partners to moderate Muslims in the Middle East?

Beat it, you silly bigot. You’re an embarrassment to all decent Americans.

PS: Since you seem to enjoy living in a state of frightened, vengeful hyperventilation, you should visit my other post from last night.

That should keep you quivering like a hot filament of Outraged Jingoism all day.

It really upsets me ...

Good. Job done, then.

Wow, clever… attack the messanger, call me names, and demand to see my certificate- those are in the liberals bag of tricks too.

Post a bunch of bigoted, ungrammatical, and nonsensical tripe and make a complete arse of yourself on a public blog and people are bound to point and laugh, “Teacher.” Shame your pupils evidently don’t get to do the same, to your face anyway.

Seriously, you’d have a tiny, tiny bit more credibility if you even knew what an imam is, let alone how to pronounce and spell it, rather than just dittoheading what Powerline, theblogprof, Protein Wisdom, No Sheeples Here, Doug Ross, and the ultimate heinous opportunist Sarah Palin have to say.

I sincerely hope your special subject isn’t religious studies, English, or civics.

Also, how’s about you open up comments on your own blog? Then we can continue this “discussion” there. Coward.

rebute her arguments

I think Our Visiting Genius From Wingnuttia meant to say “rebutt.” As in “Every time I post something online, I end up reinserting my head up my ass.”

But it’s Free Tips for Semi-literate Morons Day here at Rumproast, so here’s one for you: the plural possessive form generally requires the use of an apostrophe after the “s.”

Yeah, I know you don’t understand what any of that means.

The ugly scar at Ground Zero is a symbol understood by us all, dhimmi, the Ummah, the innocent, the guilty, the good, the evil, by all of us, as a badge conferred by radical Islamists advancing their cause.
The only point of your five that remotely bears on this is the second one.  Opposition to the mosque rises not from fear, but from a revulsion to the utterly callous disregard for the meaning of the badge so meanly conferred on New York.

@melanerpes—Nice prose, but too many words for a sandwich-board.

PS: Galileo proved that the Earth revolves around the sun, not your poetic sense of aggrievement.

Huh, I wonder when Muslims are going to join together and declare Iraq and Afghanistan hallowed ground? I mean, just because we kill Muslims indiscriminately is no reason for those haters to be all hatin’ and shit, amirite?

@HumboldtBlue—Bombing Baghdad for no particular reason or Hellfiring an Afghan wedding cannot be compared to what happened on 9/11…because we meant well.

It’s a bitch what happened to Custer, though. I don’t think I’ll ever get over that one.

The ugly scar at Ground Zero is a symbol understood by us all, dhimmi, the Ummah, the innocent, the guilty, the good, the evil, by all of us, as a badge conferred by radical Islamists advancing their cause.

I love how suddenly Palin and her cohort all of a sudden trot out words like “dhimmi” and “Ummah,” mainly because they’ve found some dissenting Muslims in Canada they can use to bolster their cause (dissenting Muslims who espouse marriage equality, among other causes I’m sure Palin et al. don’t find palatable, but that’s no reason not to exploit them in this instance, of course).

Great, so you differentiate “radical Islamists” from those who simply follow Islam.

So given that Muslims were among the dead in the Twin Towers resulting from 9/11, why are you choosing to denigrate Islam wholesale by objecting to a community center associated with an imam who was trusted enough by George Bush, FFS, to act as an emissary?

There’s no logic in your stance. Unless you’re just playing cynical lipservice to the Ummah for electoral gain or from sheer ignorance.

In which case I get to call you either an asshole or a twit. Or both. Your call.

He can’t answer why he supports an extremist imman building a victory center on the site of 9/11.

Why should President Obama (or anyone else) answer a nonsensical question about an imaginary issue?

Since there is no “extremist imman [sic]” proposing to build any “victory center”, and nobody proposing th build anything “on the site of 9/11 [sic]”, why are you asking such a hypothetical question?

If you want to know whether it is right and fitting for a group of American citizens who are Muslim to build a community center a couple of blocks from the WTC site, my answer is, “Yes, it is.  Why do you ask?”

Bet you won’t answer my question.

And isn’t “Imman” a supermodel with superpowers like .... walking and strutting and stuff?

Here’s how cynical all this hoo-ha is, from Palin’s pet blog Conservatives4Palin:

Politico effectively concedes that Governor Palin was the leader on this issue while the others were a day later and a dollar short (emphasis added):

That stance in the GOP — both in terms of political strategy and policy views — appears to be carrying the day. Most of the potential Republican presidential hopefuls, led by Sarah Palin, came out sharply against the mosque.

There you have it, out of the mouths of her most slavish fans. The same self-serving demagoguery that made her a sworn enemy to me and many others around the world at play, with no concern for truth or constitutional rights, or anything beyond trying to clutch at the reins of power she was so unjustly deprived of by a majority of the voters.

From the Politico article:

The shift plays to a hostility toward Islam among many Republican voters, and it fits with traditional Republican attacks on Democratic weakness on security policy.

“Bush went against the grain of his own constituency,” said Allen Roth, a political aide to conservative billionaire Ron Lauder and, independently, a key organizer of the fight against the mosque. “This is part of an underlying set of security issues that could play a significant role in the elections this November.”

So save me your hypocritical tears over the Ummah, melanerpes and your lying ilk. This is what it’s about.

Most of the potential Republican presidential hopefuls, led by Sarah Palin, came out sharply against the mosque.

Good. Open, ugly, red-meat bigotry is precisely what I want the GOP to project.

“This is part of an underlying set of security issues that could play a significant role in the elections this November.” 

What “security issues”? Are they going to sail the Cordoba Cultural Center to Wall Street like the Crimson Permanent Assurance, and board Goldman Sachs?

The NEW GOP: Stupidity. Hate. Fear. Revenge.

Think that’ll fit on a bumper sticker?

What part of Freedom of Religion do these people do not get.  It is like they cherry pick bits of the constitution that they like and ignore the bits they don’t.  POTUS said it best, there is no way, no how, on FSM’s green earth that the government should be able to tell a private property owner what to build or what not to build on their OWN PRIVATE FUCKING PROPERTY, you fucking idiots! 

Turn this around.  If a local government were trying to tell a Christian Association that they could not build a Church on a piece of private property there would be such an outrage in Wingnuttistan that it would break the intertubes. 

Tother way round, no problem!  We are doomed.

We are doomed.

I don’t know about that. Fear-mongering is surely useful for short-term political gain but tends to bite the mongerer on the ass eventually.

Palin’s minions are comparable to George Wallace voters a few generations ago—focusing their inchoate anger on a handy target. Suck on that legacy, you pea-brained nitwits.

@Litlebritdifrnt. Cherry picking bits of the constitution that they like and ignoring the bits they don’t along with misinterpreting what they read is what these nutters have been doing with the Bible their whole lives. They only just discovered the constitution since they got on the internet so it comes natural to apply the same twisted logic to it.

You tools… you realize that Hamas agrees with your views and positions on this victory mosque, don’t you? Mahmoud al-Zahar, the co-founder of Hamas, also thinks a mosque should be built in that location, because it represents to him (and terrorist groups around the world) a victory in their fight to kill innocent Americans. AND YOU SUPPORT IT TOO!

Hamas, a terrorist group, endorses your position- shouldn’t that make you consider your position on this issue?

You tools

Fuck you and the pony you rode in on.

“A Conservative Teacher” (who I sincerely hope does not teach in FL as I have a school-age child), you realize Osama bin Laden is your assignment editor, don’t you? Here’s the thing: you either support religious freedom or you don’t.

You and Osama don’t. Shouldn’t that make you consider your position on this issue?

Hamas, a terrorist group, endorses your position- shouldn’t that make you consider your position on this issue?

I don’t care what Mahmoud al-Zahar thinks about this. I’ll stand with Jefferson and Madison, thanks.

If America had been founded by cowards like you, we’d never have gotten further West than Pittsburgh.

Hmm…I wonder if “A Conservative Teacher” opposes the Catholic Church building community centers and new churches as well, since many members of that church, up to and including the pope, have shown a predilection for pedophilia and/or covering up said pedophilia for decades.

If not, then we can only conclude one thing: “A Conservative Teacher” is a pedophile!

Dear oh dear, “Teacher,” you obviously haven’t got the update to your daily talking points from your idol Sarah:

RT “@johnrich: Cooking a ribeye up on the roof! I think I just found Ted Nugents extra set of tongs!!!!” Todd & I wish we were there, guys!
about 18 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® 

She’s moved on. Other matters are more urgent now. Get to it.

Hamas leaders also endorse eating, drinking, and breathing. In light of this, shouldn’t you reconsider your own position on the value these activities?

You tools… you realize that Hamas agrees with your views and positions on this victory mosque, don’t you?

All Hamas, or Bin Laden, have to do to get Americans like A Craven Tool to jump to their tune is issue a few words.

The “victory mosque,” btw, isn’t.

I’m going to start calling the YMCA, which the Center is modelled on, the Victory Cathedral. There’s a Victory Cathedral on 14th street with a really good weight room.

It’s fun to stay at the Vic-To-Ree Cathedral,
it’s fun to stay at the Vic-To-Ree Cathedral….

@ford madox violet—You know, Hitler admired Henry Ford, but I’m still cool with assembly-line mass production. Am I a bad man, too?

Sarah Palin is a dunce and anyone who takes her seriously is equally stupid. The next time she says something intelligent will be the first time.

But that’s OK, Teach, I get why you like her. She’s pretty. You dig her MILF persona and can overlook her absolute disdain for education and accomplishment. Perhaps someday you’ll wake up and understand she is just another grifter, taking money from the rubes who worship at her feet, but never doing anything but padding her bank account. She’s never going to seek another office again, Teach, because she’s lazy and enjoys being a celeb.

Those are the facts.

You know, Hitler admired Henry Ford, but I’m still cool with assembly-line mass production. Am I a bad man, too?

Strange, sometimes late at night I look in the mirror and ask myself the same question. One day I’ll find the answers I’m looking for and when I do, I’ll let you know.

What is Palin’s position on the Rapture?

What is Palin’s position on the Rapture?

Caution: In Case of Rapture, This Wolf-Shooting Helicopter Platform Will be Pilotless

The World’s Stupidest Teacher said this:  “It really upsets me that you all cheer building a mosque on this site for the purposes of celebrating 9/11.”

How dare you?  How the f-ck dare you!  You rotten stinking inbred redneck.  You and Sarah Palin are turds on the shoe of our beloved nation.

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