“One Of These Things Is Not Like The Other—Honest.”

I’d intended to take a break from the old politics things today in observance of your holiday and all that, but apparently The Flipflopper-in-Chief never sleeps:

Directly contradicting his senior adviser, Eric Fehrnstrom, presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney told CBS that the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate is “a tax.”

Earlier this week, Fehrnstrom said in a TV appearance that Romney has the same view as the White House on the individual mandate: that it’s a penalty, rather than a tax. Romney instituted a state-level mandate to buy health insurance as governor of Massachusetts.

But Romney shifted gears in a sit-down with Jan Crawford, declaring that President Barack Obama broke his pledge not to raise taxes by imposing the individual mandate.

“While I agreed with the dissent, that’s overtaken by the fact that the majority of the Court said it’s a tax and therefore it is a tax. They have spoken. There’s no way around that,” Romney said. “The American people know that President Obama has broken the pledge he made — said he wouldn’t raise taxes on middle-income Americans.”

CBS hasn’t posted the full video of Romney’s interview yet, so it’s not clear if Romney addressed Fehrnstrom’s comments, or whether his remarks on the mandate today mean he also raised taxes in Massachusetts. Republicans have urged Romney to campaign comprehensively against the law known as Obamacare, even if that means talking around his record as governor.
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UPDATE II: In longer interview excerpts released by the Romney campaign, the Republican candidate argues that there’s a distinction between a state mandate and a federal mandate when it comes to taxation. The Supreme Court said the federal government can only impose a mandate as a tax, Romney argues, but that doesn’t mean a state mandate has to be defined as a tax.

Talk around this, Mitt:

Massachusetts is a model for getting everybody insured. The right way to proceed is to reform healthcare. That we can do as we did it in Massachusetts.—Governor Mitt Romney

830 CMR 111M.2.1: Health Insurance Individual Mandate; Personal Income Tax Return Requirements

4) Massachusetts Personal Income Tax Return; Requirements Relating to Health Insurance Coverage.

(a) Residents Required to Report Health Insurance Coverage on Personal Income Tax Return.

A resident who files or is required to file a Massachusetts personal income tax return is required to indicate on the return whether he or she had creditable coverage in force during the taxable year, as described below, and as applicable, to document such coverage. Coverage may be individual coverage or coverage as a named beneficiary of a policy covering multiple individuals. Generally, this documentation will be accomplished by providing information furnished to the resident on Form MA 1099-HC, as discussed in 830 CMR 111M.2.1(8). If the coverage requirement cannot be demonstrated and coverage is deemed affordable for the taxpayer, the taxpayer will be assessed the penalty at M.G.L. c. 111M, § 2, unless an exception applies (as described in 830 CMR 111M.2.1(6)).
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5) Penalty for Failure to Obtain Affordable Health Insurance Coverage.

(a) Penalty; In General.

In general, a resident who has access to affordable health insurance coverage but does not obtain and maintain the coverage may be subject to a penalty under M.G.L. c. 111M, § 2, which will be imposed through the resident’s personal income tax return. If the coverage requirement cannot be demonstrated and no exception applies, the taxpayer will be assessed the penalty as further provided in this subsection.

Except as provided in this regulation, the penalty will be assessed and collected in the manner of a tax under M.G.L. c. 62C.
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Winning.

Posted by YAFB on 07/04/12 at 04:01 PM • Permalink

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I propose the term “noncompliance fee” to replace both penalty and tax.

The whole “is it or isn’t it a tax” argument is really pretty meaningless.  The U.S. tax code imposes a number of different penalties on businesses and individuals for a variety of different things - late payment, non-payment, late filing, indifference to the regulations in a tax position, etc., etc.  These are all imposed under Congress’ power to tax and they are collected by the IRS just like any other tax and subject to the same rules for enforcement.  So all the decision was saying was that the penalty is constitutional under the power to tax whether it’s an actual *tax* or not.  The administration raised this argument as a 3rd line of defense because when you’re defending a position you fling every argument you’ve got out there hoping at least one will stick. 

The argument that Obama “raised taxes on the middle class” is also pretty lame.  The decision to be “taxed” is up to the individual.  If you get health insurance then you don’t pay the penalty.

It’s a losing issue for the Rethugs to keep humping this thing but that’s never stopped them in the past.

Well, he’s back to the Etch-a-Sketchery.  What I found odd is that he decides it’s a tax after Reince Priebus determined that Romney must have said it was a tax. This rather disturbingly reminded me of Mitt’s “I stand by whatever I said” comment. Mitt may not actually be keeping track of his flips and flops anymore.

Do I think his campaign is, either, at this point?  (“HQ, do you copy, the chameleon has hit plaid, repeat THE CHAMELEON HAS HIT PLAID!”)  Also, given that Fehrnstrom was the guy who was insisting that the candidate considered it a penalty, I wonder if this means anything with respects to taking the advice of Murdoch regarding a staff shake-up to heart.

All this isn’t exactly going down a treat at the righty blogs at the moment.

Also, remember that resurgence of the Tea Party that was meant to happen today with a bunch of local events? (Fox: “On July 4, the tea party will dust off the tri-corn hats and head into the streets to fight the second revolutionary war against ‘Obamacare.’”)

Precious few reports that I’ve been able to find anywhere. A “few dozen” turned out here and there, one crew emptied a barrel full of water representing OBAMATAX!!!! into a river, and there’s not a peep at foxnews.com, where the Pic of the Day is some 17-year-old draped in the stars and stripes, and apparently little or nothing else.

one crew emptied a barrel full of water representing OBAMATAX!!!! into a river
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I’m sure that’s profoundly symbolic but all I can think of is coals to Newcastle.

Mitt may not actually be keeping track of his flips and flops anymore.

Anymore?  The lies slip out of this guy’s mouth like carbon dioxide slides out with your breath.  He doesn’t even think about it - automatic reflex.

Tax or penalty? Outsourcing or offshoring? Pointless or meaningless? Really who the fuck knows and why would they care?

Tax or penalty? Outsourcing or offshoring?

Talk about your jesuitical parsing of meanings. All of this means sweet FA (hat tip to Brit)to your average voter. Is it that they lack message discipline? Or are they stupid? Is it both?

Tastes great! or Less Filling!

Talk about your jesuitical parsing of meanings. All of this means sweet FA (hat tip to Brit)to your average voter. Is it that they lack message discipline? Or are they stupid? Is it both?

Republicans really believe that just the word “tax” has the voodoo hoodoo power to turn the masses into a blind herd of craven tax-avoiding zombies . . . when things aren’t going their way, they toss it out there like the little kid who tries to scare his Dad by telling him there’s a monster under Dad’s bed.

The magical thinking of arrested development . . .

It strikes me that the bulk of Republican politics can be reduced to the horror of 1% paying tax. Or “tax.”

Judging by Fox’s coverage of July 4th, the Tea Party is SOOOOOO 2010. Fox Nation’s main contribution to the day’s coverage is a selection of patriotic choons.

Meanwhile, oh dear oh dear oh dear:

Romney’s ObamaCare ‘Tax’ Confusion

Lifted straight from the WSJ. When you’ve lost the liberal Fox Nation ...

A pageful of youtube links? Is the Fox site being run by drunk John Cole?

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