Party Out of Bounds

Wingnut pundit and GOP debate question dude Byron York caught a lot of flak for asking Michele Bachmann if she would be a submissive wife as president:

First of all, her answer doesn’t make any sense because “submissive” isn’t the same as “respectful.” I respect my husband, but if he asked me to do something I found as odious as Bachmann seemed to find the study of tax law—like, say, trying out for the American Ninja Warrior TV show—I’d tell him to get stuffed (in a respectful manner, naturally).

Since it’s the GOP debate, Bachmann was allowed to skate past the real issue with the standard bullshit answer biblical literalists use to convince others (and probably themselves too) that their imaginary sky daddy isn’t a misogynist knob. Instead, the controversy descended on York.

York’s question was a hot topic over at NRO, where Sister K-Lo Inviolata begged her colleague’s detractors not to harsh the mellow:

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“[H]e let hee provide an explainer”? K-Lo was drunk-blogging the GOP debate! That’s fine for Rumproast, but NRO is the cyber-home of America’s conservative intelligentsia. I guess they’re as despairing and addled as we are. Heh!

[H/T: Jason Linkins at HuffPo]

Posted by Betty Cracker on 08/12/11 at 07:48 AM • Permalink

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“Am I Crazy?” lololololol

They should make those two lines both into rotating tags at balloon juice. Am I crazy goes right up there next to Jonah holdfasts eternal excuses for why he can’t be bothered to finish a thought.

She’s right that “That issue is out there” but not in the way she means.

But what if she married a corporation? (Romney inspired me to start another tumblr last night instead of watching the debate):

http://corporationsarepeople.tumblr.com/

Michele should have answered “Um, Byron, have you met my husband? He makes Rip Taylor look butch.”

I don’y know about ‘yall, but when I need advice or have questions about marriage, I often solicit the advice of professional virgins like K-Lo.

That’s from the former editor of NRO mind you.

K-Load wasn’t drunk, she was blinded by Mitten-induced lust.

I’m glad someone asked the question, though I knew she’d use the “well, my hubby told me to do this.” When my fundy ex agreed to counseling way back in the day, he insisted on his local Baptist pastor or nuthin’. I said “sure, but the second he pulls the ol’ ‘wives submit’ crap, I’m outie”. Sho’ ‘nuff, not two sentences in, there it was. They were trying to convince me that the rule only applied when the hubby followed their god’s law, and I asked the pastor “so, his affairs make that rule null and void, right? What else ya got?” Pastor and hubby had nuthin’. I’ve been free evah since.

I must say, the way crazy eyes kept saying how “proud” she was of her hubby was much like how proud a dog owner would be that the puppy doesn’t poop on the carpets anymore.

Followups might have included: “‘Respect’?  Which, of course, is mutual.  Which means he is submissive to you?  If he, too, was submissive, why didn’t you tell him you just didn’t want to study tax law?  Or does the Bible mean something else by ‘respect,’ too?”

Yeah, yeah, catching these clowns in evasive contradictions is like shooting fish in a barrell.  But, as I always say, somebody has to shoot them.”

Minor Correction:

K’Lo’s an Amateur Virgin.  She’s never accepted money or entered any Professional competition.

aimai

Twinky P, belated congrats on your escape. 

As for the submissive wife thing, exhibit A: Phyllis Schafly.  She sure stayed home to keep the bacon frying in the pan.

Congratulations on losing that fundy dirtbag, Twinky!

As I have mentioned here before, I was tag-team raised by feckless hippies and Southern Baptist missionaries, which probably explains a lot… Anyhoo, I’ve heard every permutation of the argument on why Ephesians Chapter 5 doesn’t mean what it clearly says. If Michele Bachmann takes the bible literally (which she says she does), she would have gone to circus clown school if that’s what Marcus told her to do. Which would have been a better career path for her.

The question of who would really be calling the presidential shots dogged Hillary Clinton who was anything but a submissive wife.  In Hillary’s case I don’t think anyone really believed Big Dawg would be anything but a supporter.  But Bachmann, being on the record for saying she submitted to her husband’s decision for her to study tax law (a lucrative career, BTW, that she would have been wise to stick to) needs to treat it as a legitimate question.

Thanks, guys. I got two good kids and half his military pension out of the deal, so I did all right. Plus, I can spot a fundy hypocrite a mile away now. Always a bonus!

Bachmann knows full well her hubby’s not only the founder of his pray away the gay biz, he’s a customer, too. You can tell by the way she’s so “proud,” as I mentioned. I wouldn’t be surprised if a Craig’s List moment was in their future.

“[A] submissive wife question”—sounds like this is an established area of rhetoric for these folks.

It is an interesting question, given Bachmann’s stated views on marriage. If asked of a female politician like Hillary Clinton it would make no sense, since she made it a point to say she would be the decision maker.

I doubt questions like this will be seen as legitimate by most press, though. They reek of sexism, even if the truth is that Bachmann advocates submissive behavior in marriage.

Now I’m just interested in seeing if Bachmann can pull out a win in Iowa and freak out the establishment GOP. If she does, that’s when the knives will come out. I’ll be popping popcorn in anticipation.

The real bonus here is that it’s Byron York of the Washington Examiner asking the question. There goes the “liberal media” defense.

I agree that Hillary would have been calling the shots, no doubt—but it was mystifying how many PUMAs then and now, cited the “She’ll have Bill there to help her!” bullet point as for why she would be such an awesome leader. And then turned around and cried SEXISTSEXISTOMGWTFBBQ!!! if there was a whiff of a hint of a suggestion that maybe, just maybe, Hillary’s claiming her First Lady years as equivalent to being co-president was, how you say, bullshit.

Michele should have answered “Um, Byron, have you met my husband? He makes Rip Taylor look butch.”

QOTD!

Shhh ... but here’s some double-secret pre-debate prep footage of Michele getting ready for the big fight with the boys.

Comment by HumboldtBlue on 08/12/11 at 08:17 PM

But Bachmann, being on the record for saying she submitted to her husband’s decision for her to study tax law ... needs to treat it as a legitimate question.

I wonder if that wasn’t more of her particular brand of bullshit.  When you think of how she has exaggerated her stint as a foster parent, going so far as to imply that she has all 23 foster kids living in her house right now, you have to wonder if she just wasn’t telling the good folks at the Living World Christian Center whatever they wanted to hear.  “Why, of course I’m a submissive Christian wife!  Why, I’m so submissive that ... that ... uhh ... Marcus made me study tax law even when I didn’t want to! So there!”

Comment by MaryRC on 08/13/11 at 07:08 PM
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