Snowden’s Big Mistake


Yesterday, Edward Snowden allegedly released a new statement. Here’s an excerpt:

For decades the United States of America have been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person.

First of all, the use of the plural verb highlighted above: Americans use the singular form when referring to the United States, while those who speak the Queen’s English use “are.” Either Snowden didn’t write that statement himself, or he wrote it and then allowed Julian Assange or his UK-based WikiLeaks handler in Russia to edit it.

Secondly, the US government or local authorities routinely compel citizens to surrender passports if they’re accused (not convicted, but accused) of a crime and deemed a flight risk, right? Snowden isn’t stateless—he’s just in hot water with his state.

Speaking of Assange, it appears he’s making Ecuador regret its kindness in taking him in:

Mr. Snowden’s case appeared to be causing tensions between the government of Ecuador and Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder. Mr. Assange has been in Ecuador’s embassy in London for more than a year, given asylum there to avoid extradition to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning on allegations that he sexually assaulted two women.

“The conduct of Assange has bothered me a little, and this morning I spoke with the foreign minister to tell him not to speak about our country’s situations,” Mr. Correa [Ecuador’s president] said Monday, according to Agence France-Presse.

Mr. Correa was apparently displeased by comments that Mr. Assange made on Sunday on the ABC program “This Week” regarding Mr. Biden’s telephone call. Mr. Assange characterized that call as an effort to pressure Mr. Correa. “What does he know about the call from Joe Biden?” Mr. Correa was quoted as saying by A.F.P. “And he says that he called to pressure me. I have never permitted a call to put pressure on me.”

Now Correa says Snowden is Russia’s problem, and Russia says Snowden has withdrawn his application for asylum there.

I’ve never quite known what to think about WikiLeaks: I can see both sides of the argument on transparency. Moreover, I’m generally suspicious when someone who is causing problems for a government is suddenly (and conveniently) discovered to be a pervert.

But whether or not Assange is guilty of sexual assault, the people who entrust government secrets to him don’t seem to fare so well, and he doesn’t appear competent enough to handle travel arrangements, let alone classified information. Future leakers beware.

[X-posted at Balloon Juice]

Posted by Betty Cracker on 07/02/13 at 07:00 AM • Permalink

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Assange is not only well known for his galactic ego, he has a history of creepy behavior with women. Not at all a stretch to believe that he’s so inept around women, he could rape them while believing in his superiority and… in his own mind…  that it wasn’t rape.

Assange at the ADULT age of 33: -of-julian-assange

Comment by Rob H on 07/02/13 at 08:11 AM

Uh…oh.  Yes, those gawker emails are incredibly creepy. They are definitely a sign that Assange won’t take no for an answer, and readily objectifies women by classifying them as “soft and yielding” (i.e. available) or “hard [headed]” and mean (i.e. not available).  I have zero doubt, after reading those emails, that he had sex with two women without using contraception (the issue in the Swedish cases). He really has a hard time changing gears, even in a relationship that exists entirely in his own head, and so if he were already “in” a sexual encounter which he had defined a certain way to himself I think it would be fatally easy for him to ignore what the woman is telling him. He seems to just ignore what is not convenient for him.

and Glenn Greenwald takes to Fox news to explain it all.

Comment by nellcote on 07/02/13 at 02:32 PM

Wow, just heard on Rachel that the Columbian prez’ plane, who’d been in Moscow for that conference, had been forced to land in Austria because France, Italy & maybe another country wouldn’t let them fly over their airspace because they were pretty sure Snowden was on his plane.  {BREAKING - MORE TO FOLLOW, NO DOUBT!}

Maybe one of those billionaire anarcho-capitalist “libertarian” hedge fund manager types can set Snowden up aboard an abandoned oil rig or decommissioned anti-aircraft micro-nation platform in the North Atlantic - or somewhere.  Rename it The Snowdenlandia. He can learn to play sad fiddle tunes during storms and spot pilot whales and send secret messages to Faroe Islands cod fisherman using an old navy signal lamp. Once a year, for old times sake, Glenn Greenwald will drop in with a pizza and a wikileak frisbee.


Rename it The Snowdenlandia

Or HOOHALAND. That’s more like it.


First of all, the use of the plural verb highlighted above: Americans use the singular form when referring to the United States, while those who speak the Queen’s English use “are.” Either Snowden didn’t write that statement himself, or he wrote it and then allowed Julian Assange or his UK-based WikiLeaks handler in Russia to edit it.

Being a Paulbot, he may consider the U.S. to be a collection of sovereign states, with any action by the federal government being an abomination.

Judging by The US government’s actions in trying to apprehend Snowden, Assange was wise to refuse to return to Sweden.
But it’s great to see American liberals finally give up the pretense that they aren’t as susceptible as their conservative counterparts to narrow-minded patriotism and puritan moral judgements based on well-organized smear campaigns.

My feelings about Assange are not based on ” Puritan Moral Judgements” but my experience, as a woman, talking to older letchy guys who won’t take no for an answer or deal with me as a person.  Assange’s email exchange with that girl is nauseating in its stalkery quality. The story the two Swedish women tell seems perfectly reasonable, to me and it is classified as rape under Swedish law.  I see no reason that Assange’s whistleblowing history should protect him from legitimate charges of rape.  He’s done his job with the wikileaks he already accomplished and nothing will claw that back. Does his “good deed” with wikileaks make him immune from all criminal prosecution for the rest of his life?

Ditto Snowden. I feel sorry for the guy because he seems really, really, out of his depth and he has placed himself in an untenable position. But I’m not sure why I should care.  There are better people, who have done more for society than Snowden, who are languishing in prison or dead right now. If, as his supporters keep telling me, its not about him then its not about him.

Judging by The US government’s actions in trying to apprehend Snowden, Assange was wise to refuse to return to Sweden.

Oh, give me a break. Speaking as a Brit, you know nothing of the UK nor its historic “special relationship” with the US, of which recent revelations have just served as a reminder for those who haven’t been paying attention. Assange would be way safer in Sweden from whatever fate his fevered brain imagines awaits him than he is in our wonderful country. That’s not why he’s on the lam.

And do fill me in on “the US government’s actions” that you find so sinister in this case. They’ve frozen his passport. That’s standard procedure unless you think laws don’t have any weight, in which case you’re as naive as Snowden. Or are you talking about diplomatic approaches “behind the scenes,” like Joe Biden calling up Correa? Wow, hardball. Or are you talking about this supposed Morales plane rerouting? Last I looked, the initial hair-on-fire reports about that had been debunked. Meanwhile, I can tell you a tale or two about past US administrations’ activities if you’re not wanting to look forward to a restful night’s sleep.

In any case, Assange skipped bail here and screwed some erstwhile allies who’d championed him, trusted him, given him generous hospitality, and stood bond for him, so he’s undeserving of sympathy for his conduct beyond whatever may or may not have happened between him and some ex-sexual partners in Sweden.

Assange’s leadership has been a disaster for Wikileaks—again, for those of us who didn’t just start paying attention to this sekrit stuff in the last month or two. It used to be a worthy if somewhat shadowy organization that served as a conduit for real whistleblowing. I know because I used to visit its site before it became a major media phenomenon. It got served a spectacular bonanza with what Manning passed on, and Assange achieved media stardom.

And pray tell me what exactly Assange did to safeguard his one-time informant while he reaped the benefits?

And now again, Assange latches onto and gives shitty advice to a “whistleblower,” who’s now stranded and effectively stateless. Great job.

What YAFB said. The sad thing is, we NEED an organization like WikiLeaks. We just need one that isn’t run by creepy narcissists.

Well now!  We must be superior to someone so let’s pick on a true hero or two. 

The suck at this site is so great, it’s stirring up the wind from the South.  The old South, where lynching was common.

Well, ronbo, your butthurt that not everyone is part of your personality cult while somehow still managing to feel annoyed that the objects of your adoration are muddying the issues they purport to be championing to further their own ambitions is pretty damn amusing, but your gratuitous reference to lynching is fucking insensitive. Do you really need somebody to explain to you why?

Since this site sucks so much, I’m sure you’ll find the exit all on your own.

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