Spending freeze? SPENDING freeze?!?!

What Rachel said:

Christ in a Dust Bowl migration convoy.

Posted by Betty Cracker on 01/26/10 at 07:41 AM • Permalink

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Paul Krugman is not happy.

Jesus HF Christ, what a stupid idea this is.

Comment by Tracy on 01/26/10 at 11:21 AM

Oh, well.  It was nice while it lasted.

I’ve no doubt “conservatives” will hail this as a “good thing” while continuing to rail against raising taxes on the wealthy during a Recession.  Because the right failed Economics.

Unfortunately, John, I think the only conservatives who will be on board are DINOs like Evan Bayh, both Nelsons and Lieberman. The actual Republican conservatives are on a destroy-Obama mission, and I don’t think anything he does will alter that.

Oh, I’ve no doubt that they will tie their approval in continued insane criticism of the man.  But this sort of brain-dead nonsense is what passes for “conservative” economic policy these days—and what a suprising chunk of the American people have come to view as good sense, I’m afraid.

So, let’s just get ready for the collapse and the revolutions, shall we?

This is the part of politics that just makes me tired. No doubt the Dems are defending against 2010 Rep slogans like: “The Democrat Party is once again spending like sailors on shore leave.” And, of course, the ever popular “Party of tax and spend.”

And, as Chris Bowers points out, it’s likely that Obama doesn’t mean it.

My head hurts that Evan Bayh likes it.

Whatever…apparently nobody outside of Alan Grayson gives a fuck about the Citizens United ruling, so the country’s screwed no matter what.

As I’ve said before, the vast middle of this country only cares that they have access to beer, Big Macs, and big screen TVs.

And here I’m half way through the semester and I’m starting to wonder what’s the goddamn point.

Throw in a 50-state concealed-carry ban, a manned mission to Apophis and a 100% write-off for Zero-Point Energy homes and I’m in!

I don’t think this is really as bad as it sounds.  “Spending freeze” is really a misnomer.  From what I’m reading they’re planning to limit increases in spending on certain programs while others won’t be affected.

The fact is that the deficit is to the point where it needs to be a concern and there is a lot of pork, waste and unnecessary spending in the federal budget.  It’s a good idea to consider trimming some of the waste.

It just sounds to me like Rachel didn’t do her usual homework on this one.  Plus she’s kind of hyper-ventilating in her commentary.  I so hate politics any more.

From what I’m reading they’re planning to limit increases in spending

Yeah, but that’s always what they mean by “freeze.” Even “reductions” are actually increases, just lower than the projections.

Swear to God, I’m so frustrated with the neverending capitulation to the right I’m seriously considering throwing my support behind a second-party candidate.

And THAT will be a shining victory for the forces of good.

You know—as pissed as I am at the Dems—I understand why this has come up.  It has to do with the great weakness that has crept into our state, and may very well kill us.  The average American knows little to nothing on many important subjects, such as economics, science, health care.  Unfortunately, our sort of representative democracy requires voters who are reasonably informed on these subjects to function well. Because they aren’t there, one party has essentially based its entire platform on things that not only aren’t true, but are what I like to call “counterfactual”—things that could never be true.  And so we move further and further away from solving our problems, and the public thinks we’re getting closer—or at least, getting by.

This can’t end well.  It never does.

one party has essentially based its entire platform on things that not only aren’t true, but are what I like to call “counterfactual”—things that could never be true.

This is what Sarah Palin has branded “common sense,” and is typified by a shared delusion that the Founding Fathers weren’t really elite Liberal intellectuals.

And THAT will be a shining victory for the forces of good.

Assuming that was directed at me, I was joking, otherwise I would’ve said “third.” That said, My problem with Naderites was that Ralph Nader sucks, not that they showed insufficient fealty to the Democratic Party.

The average American knows little to nothing on many important subjects, such as economics, science, health care.

You misspelled “Congressperson.”

Don’t blame Obama for this.  It’s Bush’s deficit and it’s Bush’s crash.  At some point along the road, someone was going to have to pay for it, and it’s tough that it has to be him.

We know that, Foregone. It’s just that practically every sane economist on earth thinks freezing or cutting spending during a recession makes things worse, not better. Not to mention the bad optics involved in validating a GOP talking point.

I’ll wait for the details before getting really pissed off. But what I’ve heard is not encouraging.

Betty,

May I recommend this Jared Bernstein post at HuffPo?

Bernstein is the author of All Together Now, a much-cited work for all Dem candidates during the 2008 campaign, and an advisor to Biden.

He emphasizes that the freeze he’s talking about is not an across-the-board freeze:

Second, a little background on freeze-eology: there are two ways to do a freeze like this: (1) an across-the-board freeze on every program outside of national security; and (2) a surgical approach where overall totals are frozen but some individual programs go up and others go down. In short, a hatchet versus a scalpel.

During the campaign, you may recall that John McCain touted option 1: the hatchet approach of an across-the-board freeze.

Conservatives cannot be appeased. I thought we’d learned that lesson.

You misspelled “Congressperson.”

Hahahahahahaha.  Good one.  But seriously—do you think the large number of bozos presently in office could survive a populace that actually knew about things?

The question is, will the “forces of nature” bring it all down? By the way, I have just added a Reference List to my economics blog with economic data series, history, bibliographies etc. for students & researchers. Currently over 200 meta sources, it will in the next days grow to over a thousand. Check it out and if you miss something, feel free to leave a comment.

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