Tears of a Meat Prod

Betty Cracker answers myiq2xu (aka meatprod4u) so I don’t have to (okay, maybe I will later…):

And you know, I’m sure none of us are 100% proud of everything we’ve ever said online; I know I’m not. But the thing is, we don’t all set ourselves up as the final arbiters of acceptable feminist speech and behavior, whereas Meatprod — and so many of his PUMA fellow travelers — do.

The “boys will be boys” defense might actually work for someone who didn’t make a specialty of consigning opponents like Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau to misogynist hell forever for the sin of groping a cardboard cut-out. It might work for someone who didn’t condemn Obama as an incorrigible sexist pig for using words like “periodically” and “claws.”

But when you set yourself up as the Torquemada of the Sexism Inquisition and routinely cast others onto the pyre for much smaller transgressions than you yourself have perpetrated, well, you deserve to get singed by your own words. And make no mistake about it, Meatprod was feeling the heat, or he wouldn’t have bothered to post that lame attempt at bamboozlement.

Read it all.

UPDATE: Now I know why meatprod4u loves making these things…

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I did agree with this one thing from Cannonfodder:

Joseph Cannon pictures himself an apostle of sweet reason, a policy wonk, a thinker capable of Vulcan objectivity. What self-delusion!

I would have just said bitter arrogant prick, but I like his phrasing.

Some people like to get off, and I do mean get off, on destroying things.  In this sense Chucky and Meatprod are fraternal twins.  I seem to recall an old saying: “avoid negative people.”  I’d just add to that: “particularly when they got the failure karma.”

I still can’t tell if anyone (besides the Effluence frontpagers) have actually read meatprod’s comments about Miss Teen SC. I know these folks were driven nuts by the primaries, but how can you defend someone when you don’t know what you’re defending them for?

KK, they seem to be fairly convinced that there’s no point in dropping by to read his offending comments. Plus, most of them don’t know where this blog is, or how to get here, even though they have no trouble formulating elaborate theories about the political and moral pathologies of the people who write the comments they’ve never read, because they’re too dumb to use Google.

Bottom line: Their attitude is that whatever he said about choking an ignorant slut with his veiny, blue beef-cork in order to shut her the fuck up was probably said in a light-hearted, meta-Feminist manner…like a Zen Koan, or Andy Kaufmann’s Intergender Wrestling League.

Lighten up, blogstalkers. Some forms of rape are simply high-concept comedy, and we PUMAs are down with breezy intellectual misogyny, as long as it comes with a wink and a rimshot. Hey, now!

Some forms of rape are simply high-concept comedy, and we PUMAs are down with breezy intellectual misogyny, as long as it comes with a wink and a rimshot.

Indeed. That’s as good a description of meatprod’s dime store ironies as I think we’re going to see.

From The Confluence:

angelasmith, on April 8th, 2009 at 10:41 am Said:
wow. “failed to rebut charges of hypocrisy.” Something really strange about that phrase. Sounds downright Orwellian or Obamian. The thought police seemed to have dragged you into court. Their court, their judge, their jury. Paging Camus, Kafka, we have an old plot for you rearing its ugly head again.

“Their court, their judge, their jury. Paging Camus, Kafka, we have an old plot for you rearing its ugly head again.”

Sounds more like PUMAthink than Kafka.

So what is it, angelasmith? Orwell, Camus or Kafka? Please organize your thoughts.

“failed to rebut charges of hypocrisy.”

Aside from her just willy-nilly dumping those three writers into the mix, what exactly is “strange about that phrase”? Maybe if we made the text all glittery and had animated butterflies fluttering around it she would be able to handle it a bit better.

I never knew that you started this blog ‘solely to “oppose” PUMA’.

I feel dirty.  I need to take a shower.

How could you?

Yeah, I guess you didn’t hear the RBC meeting went down in October of ‘07.

And you know, I’m sure none of us are 100% proud of everything we’ve ever said online; I know I’m not. But the thing is, we don’t all set ourselves up as the final arbiters of acceptable feminist speech and behavior, whereas Meatprod — and so many of his PUMA fellow travelers — do.

This, to me at least, is the most disagreeable thing about meatprod4u’s personality. He never admits, at least to those with whom he is in opposition, that he might be wrong or might have misspoken. He answers legitimate observations and critiques with deflective questions so that he never has to own what he implies. Worst of all, he is completely unaware of his own empty glibness.

Oh, but his “heart is in the right place.” I love how his post on yesterday’s Confluence was engineered almost exclusively to fire up the protective maternal instincts of his female compatriots. Boy oh boy, did he ever play them.

I love how his post on yesterday’s Confluence was engineered almost exclusively to fire up the protective maternal instincts of his female compatriots. Boy oh boy, did he ever play them.

Like a violin. It was all “they’re trying to intimidate me and drive me away”—as if anyone who opposes PUMA wants Meatprod to go away! He is the gift that keeps on giving: Only a handful have done more to lower the collective credibility of PUMA than Meatprod.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m only here because I’m amoral and friendless.

I still think meatprod and the Great Pumpkin should hook up, It would relieve a lot of tension in both of them.

Just for kicks, I left this over at the Cannonfodder site:

I guess I have to weigh in here. I am no Obot, did not vote for the guy, even point out his failings in my blog, but am a regular visitor at one of the sites myiq2xu is referring to.

I found Rumproast because myiq2xu (srsly. dumbest moniker evAr!!1!) came over to Sadly, No! and started acting like a supreme troll.(And was handily pnwed).

Just because someone whines and moans about being a victim does not a victim make. myiq2xu (I highly doubt his IQ is in the 280 range) is an internet drama queen. Most of the PUMAs fall under this category as well.

I think they had some legitimate grievances to begin with, but as time has gone on the entire scene has devolved into self-important narcissistic grandstanding and poorly played rat-fucking. And that, my friend, is highly worthy of mocking.

I have no interest in ‘stalking’ anyone, nor getting in a flame war. I’m just calling it like I see it…

Any bets on whether he approved it?

Any bets on whether he approved it?

I don’t read Cannonfire that much, but I get a sense he’s a bit fairer than most PUMAs, so I guess we’ll see.

Thank god one of you posted a comment.  Axelrod was demanding payment back.

I’ll save you the money.

He didn’t.

Oh well.  They always let me down.  Should have known better.

The only PUMA I’ve ever banned from commenting here is meatprod4u and that was because I had seen plenty of evidence that not only was he deleting comments (including plenty of very reasonable ones), but also editing a lot them. So I figured it was only right and proper that he got the same treatment here.

Hell, I let dakinikat prattle on and on in here one day and I ended up banning a new commenter who wrote something extremely sexist/offensive about her ... and then had to deal with a lot of back and forth via email from the person I banned because I was looking out for a PUMA.

Also.

Cowards will be cowards.

That’s why I never bother to comment on their blogs. And besides, trying to have a dialogue with them is pointless.  This comment from Joseph pretty much sums up why:

Gary, if you don’t see the Obama cult AS a cult, then YOU are the one who cannot acknowledge plain fact.

Even alleged non-PUMAs like Lambert play the same lazy game. All they want to hear is “You were right” after they bellow “We told you so!” at you. Nothing else will work with them. Expecting anything more at this point is hopeless.

Which is why we just sit here pointing and laughing. It’s about all we can do when we’re dealing with them.

Which is why we just sit here pointing and laughing. It’s about all we can do when we’re dealing with them.

It’s really all they deserve

Was this all-powerful meatprod made from the flesh of the Hambeast?

And I agree with strange ... he has no friends because he’s amoral and umm ... he rapes cardboard (you shoulda seen what he did to that poster of Farrah Fawcett he hung over his bed until the Bo Derek came along and then he dumped Farrah like the way Obama dumped Wright, except without all the whitey hating, murka-damning evil) ... he likes sausages and he thinks that “science” is important to understanding stuff .. fucking freak ..

And here I go trying to be (fairly) reasonable.

I ventured over to Meatprod’s blog and left a comment, which I expect not to appear, but he’s whining over the threatening aspect of a guy who posted a picture of a dead puma(feline variety) in a wheelbarrow labeled “FAIL” on a couple of blogs.

Just because, here it is:

Since you take the coward’s tactic of editing comments you don’t like, I’m taking a screenshot of my comment.

A man who thinks it funny to post a picture of a witch crashed into a tree with the caption “My ex-wife injured in accident” and the sentiment “I was heartbroken to learn she will recover” is hardly in a position to complain about somebody else posting pictures of expired pumas. No actual woman was harmed in the first instance, and no particular woman was threatened.

Your ex, OTOH, no doubt saw your little joke, and whatever may have happened, you aimed a blow at a living, particular woman, and it no doubt found its mark. Congrats.

It is your hypocrisy that earns you the most contempt, calling other people misogynists while you pull crap far, far worse.

And here’s the link to your Confluence post about your ex:http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/my-ex-wife- injured-in-accident/

Some big feminist. Want to blame the patriarchy again?

Mrs. Polly, he replied:

myiq2xu Says: 
April 8, 2009 at 1:54 pm
What color is the sky in your world? Ours is blue.

I wouldn’t dream of editing your comment - it serves my purpose just the way it is. I spent quite a while on this post and you proved my point in less time and with fewer words.

Does that make you an idiot savant?

BTW - I can’t wait to show your comment to my ex-wife, she’s gonna laugh her ass off.

It is pointless to argue with the Prod. His sole comeback is “I know you are, but what am I?”  Followed by a razzberry.  I don’t know about his IQ, if he actually got through law school it’s probably above average, but his EQ (look it up, Prod) is down there with a 10 year old schoolyard show-off.

BTW - I can’t wait to show your comment to my ex-wife, she’s gonna laugh her ass off.

Of course, if she laughs too loud, she’ll get a meatprod to the back of the throat. Dumb broad.

Alright, what I’m just now seeing is that meatprod4u is completely lacking in any ability to choose his battles. He’s incapable of laughing off one or two minor points in favor of addressing the main issue. He must answer every remark, no matter how minute, so that he can claim total victory.

In addition to being intellectually two-dimensional, meatprod4u is as petty as they come. And my God, does he ever crave approval. His ego reminds me of those poor children whose stomachs expand horribly from lack of food - undernourished as it is, meatprod’s ego just swells into some grotesque manifestation of desperate need.

The Prod (thank you, Mar!) after lobbing a goat turd at me, banned me from commenting. That’s a big brave boy.

So basically that cannon fodder article boiled down to (and bear with me, here, I didn’t read it all because I’m not sure yet if I care):

“Almost everyone is a sheep whose views were come to through manipulation.  People who think they aren’t sheep almost certainly are.

I’m not, though.”

Well, I believe him.

“The Prod (thank you, Mar!) after lobbing a goat turd at me, banned me from commenting. That’s a big brave boy. “

If you hadn’t warned him that you’d taken a screen cap of your post in the first place, he probably would’ve edited it, anyway.

When all else fails, claim that you’re the grand puppet master and everyone is playing right into your hands.

It was all a social experiment!

BTW - I can’t wait to show your comment to my ex-wife, she’s gonna laugh her ass off.

I’m sure she’ll laugh, the same way she laughed at him when they were married.

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