The Confluence’s Un-Enlightened myiq2xu (aka meatprod4u)

Saturday the Confluence’s resident unapproachable male feminist and stellar slut-shamer myiq2xu republished some Rumproast comments in a scattered post titled “Un-Enlightened Obots” defending both Sarah Palin and the Daily Howler’s Bob Somerby, but neglected to link to our blog because it was a “biohazard.”  I’ll return the favor by not linking to his blog post either and delivering an equally scattered post wherein I lay out some truly “hazardous” stuff a certain clown wrote about a young teenage girl not too long ago.

In the past myiq2xu has repeatedly referred to this blog, me, my co-bloggers (currently 3 out of 4 who are women), and its commenters as misogynistic and/or sexist. When he’s been called on a tasteless comment he wrote about PUMA women in March 2008 at Balloon Juice, he routinely dismisses it as a joke. Plausible, sure, but if myiq2xu gets a pass for that, why is it okay for him to repeatedly refer to Obama’s speechwriter Jon Favreau as sexist and a “groper” for one photograph of him that could easily be construed as “a joke” as well? I’ve looked and I’ve found zero evidence, aside from the photo where Favreau’s allegedly groping the breast (armpit?) of a cardboard cutout of Hillary, to indicate that he’s some raging male chauvinistic pig.

That said, I did find yet another example of myiq2xu behaving like a vulgar misogynist and, in this case, applying the “it was just a joke” defense is going to be virtually impossible. Less than two years ago Balloon Juice’s John Cole posted the much-snickered-about video of Miss Teen South Carolina Caitlin Upton severely bungling a response to a question about why so few Americans can find the U.S. on a world map. Here’s what myiq2xu, the shameless hypocrite who specializes in kneejerk branding of his opponents as misogynists and sexists, wrote about this innocent nineteen-year-old woman at the time:

myiq2xu     August 27th, 2007 at 12:44 pm

Just stare at her boobs and don’t pay any attention to what she says. If she talks too much put something in her mouth.

She needs to marry a rocket scientist so her kids will be half-wits.

And then, believe it or not, it got worse:

Andrew     August 27th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

 

Her reoccurring use of “such as” is a result of a dialog coach training her out of rampant use of the word “like”. They instruct kids to substitute “such as” for “like”. She must not have had this coaching trick for very long.

Do they use an electro-shock collar for this conditioning process?

myiq2xu     August 27th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

 

Do they use an electro-shock collar for this conditioning process?

They hit her in the back of the throat with the meat prod.

And even worse:

myiq2xu     August 27th, 2007 at 5:05 pm

 

That training coach better have earned himself the pink slip for this one. If his job was to rid her of the “like”s, AND make her sound intelligent…well…uh…not so much.

The deficiency with the meat prod method is that the teacher has an obvious conflict of interest.

He then concludes with:

myiq2xu     August 27th, 2007 at 5:14 pm

I discovered that if you turn the volume all the way down before playing the clip her performance improves dramatically.

I hope she won.

No additional commentary necessary, is there? myiq2xu, who shall henceforth be known as meatprod4u, is a fraud and a hypocrite and, even though I don’t run around the internet in a Tourette’s-like state calling myself a feminist, I’m damn sure I’m much more of one than he’ll ever be. Please remember this post the next time you see him referring to “blogstalkers,” Obots or anyone as sexist or Rumproast as an “overflowing commode of misogyny.” If we’re an overflowing commode, he’s an overburdened sewage treatment plant in dire need of repair.

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I sense a Pig of the Year award in your future if the Confluence people get a hold of your SHAMELESS anti-Hilary statements.

taking bets on whether MyIQEatsPaperClips shows up here to “defend” himself, or simply takes shots from the heavily-edited confines of the Effluence

Epic win.  I’ve been meaning to resume puma blogging, and this was a shot in the arm.

Myiq2xu is a walking fail-bot.  Naturally the PUMAs make him feel at home.

As a veteran pro-choice activist, I’ve run into douchebags like meatprod4u far too often. These pretend-feminists loathe women as much as any out-front misogynist –– maybe more –– and it oozes out in their “jokes” and other inappropriate behavior. Fortunately, it doesn’t take long for everybody to catch on, and the creeps end up ostracized fairly quickly. My bet is that there are zero feminists worthy of the name who can stand meatprod4u’s physical or spiritual presence.

Somewhat related to this:  this weekend, the good folks at Corrente were shocked to find out that Riverdaughter’s commitment to fighting sexism was entirely situationalQuelle surprise!

I know this misses the point, but even a card-carrying Mensa member (>~145 IQ) will only have twice the IQ of about 1 in 500 people.

An ‘average’ IQ (100) has double the IQ of exactly nobody who is capable of using a computer.

So someone with the IQ of a PUMA, well, I think my cat would still score higher than half of *that*.

I personally think that meatprod4u gets off on making the inflammatory and clearly sexist remarks he occasionally posts on TC, then enjoys the inevitable sparring that follows. Meatprod4u is sort of like King Ubu with his antics. Sort of looks like how I imagine Ubu to be as well. Now watch - the asshole is probably going to answer me with a link to another Wikipedia article.

I’ve seen him refer to his alias as a test and everyone seems to fail it when they make fun of it. I’m not sure where you land with your assessment. Since you weren’t a staunch Hillary supporter, I’m guessing “fail.”

this weekend, the good folks at Corrente were shocked to find out that Riverdaughter’s commitment to fighting sexism was entirely situational

Yeah, I saw that. It may be covered here, but not by me. I just plan on spending the rest of the day coming up with forced oral sex jokes about teenage girls because apparently that’s what good feminists do.

Somehow, I doubt the several self-styled PUMA feminists who closely monitor this blog will point at meatprod4u, utter an inhuman shriek like Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and denounce the truly appalling sexist crap you revealed. For all their yapping about demeaning language, sexism and misogyny, the truth is the kittehs don’t give a shit about any of that.

PUMA in its current form exists to exalt a cartoonish fantasy of Hillary Clinton that bears no resemblance to the actual woman, to direct an unending stream of bile at Obama and his supporters and to enrich a few shake-down artists and GOP ratfucking outfits. All the bleating about Alice Paul, sexist language, domestic violence, etc., is just a fig leaf to cover those dangly bits.

What a fuckwad!  This is Riverchucky’s brother you say?

Was that poor girl even old enough to be discussed in that manner by (what I’m assuming is) a much older man?

Does he generally share his masturbatory fantasies of forced oral on young girls on his sister’s PUMA site?  No?  Gee…

This is Riverchucky’s brother you say?

I don’t believe they’re related.

Betty, yeah, as your recent post showed, it’s selective or, as John called it above, situational feminism (read: absolute crap). If attacks or criticisms are leveled at Hillary or Palin, it’s due to misogyny, pure and simple, but when they attack or criticize Michelle or Caroline Kennedy or Donna Brazile or Nancy Pelosi that’s A-OK because those women are Obots.

Regardless of whether Chucky and Meatprod are related, the simple fact that he’s a front pager on her blog puts a rest to any assumptions that she’s in any way a *feminist*.

@Kevin: How is his name a test? It seems as straightforward as most 1st-grade ‘neener neener’ insults.

As an aside, I’m not the same Steve M. as the one who writes No More Mister Nice Blog.

Riverdaughter and meatprod4u are not related. When I complained, months ago, to Riverdaughter about meatprod4u having said “fuck you” to Lorenda on TC (pardon me for bringing this up yet again), her response was that:

he’s a GUY.  We’re trying to housebreak him.  ;-) We have learned to tolerate him because he writes beautifully crafted arguments and we all evolve over time, even former Balloon Juice jerks. 

I believe that meatprod (great name, Kevin K) has done a tremendous amount of damage at Riverdaughter’s site, and that he and bostonboomer represent the quintessence of schoolyard co-dependency.

beautifully crafted arguments

Gee, I must’ve missed those.

former Balloon Juice jerks

That’s true in that everybody at Balloon Juice thinks meatprod’s a jerk.

If I thought the PUMAs gave a crap about feminism I’d wonder why they continue put up with this brain dead bacon streak of a man. But as Betty Cracker points out, this was never about feminism. I’m no longer sure it was ever about Hillary. As it is, I can’t think of a more fitting person to be the token male of the ladies Klan auxillary.

HTP -

It was about Hillary. And it was about honoring the election processes. Those are two things I’m absolutely sure about, which means that whatever has transpired since last summer is all the uglier.

I may have exercised very poor judgment in agreeing to do that film, but I remain convinced that Darragh, Riverdaughter and most of the others were sincere in their objectives. Once the McCain alternative began to take hold, this went to hell in a handbasket.

I prefer to think of MyIQEatsPaste and Riverchucky as some even-more-horrifying version of the incestuous brother and sister in Wendy Macleod’s House of Yes, only instead of re-enacting the Kennedy assassination, they fantasize elaborate torture sessions where Oblahblah is “prodded” by a dominatrix Hillary Clinton.

You get to choose which one of them plays which role. ;)

Also—pleasant dreams!

Brad: +100.

John Cain: Why do you imagine we’re surprised?

Also, Brad, I think the Hillary Clinton camp lost any moral high ground on the “honoring the election process” score when they started screaming about counting Florida and Michigan AFTER their candidate made it clear that those were “beauty contests” in keeping with the DNC rules that ALL the candidates signed on to before the primary season commenced.

No way in hell would they have been clutching their pearls and wringing their hands at the vast inhumanity and Zimbabwe-like horrifying disfranchisement in those “crucial swing states” if Obama or anyone other than Hillary had won. To the contrary, the spleen-venting from the HRC followers if ANY votes had counted for Obama in similar circumstances would have caused a geyser of bile that would have blocked out the sun for the rest of the election cycle.

I prefer to think of MyIQEatsPaste and Riverchucky as some even-more-horrifying version of the incestuous brother and sister in Wendy Macleod’s House of Yes

I think of them as Darwin and Minerva Mayflower in Hudson Hawk

taking bets on whether MyIQEatsPaperClips shows up here to “defend” himself, or simply takes shots from the heavily-edited confines of the Effluence

Well, I was half right - he’s got some long-winded whine about ad-hominems on his own site (where he calls Brad a crook). My guess is that he didn’t have the balls to deal with it on Effluence, lest the ladies get wind of this.

Also, Brad, I think the Hillary Clinton camp lost any moral high ground on the “honoring the election process” score when they started screaming about counting Florida and Michigan AFTER their candidate made it clear that those were “beauty contests” in keeping with the DNC rules that ALL the candidates signed on to before the primary season commenced.

I’m not here to argue on behalf of Hillary Clinton. I understand the point you’re making but I’m out of that entire debate.

Brad: +100.

*urp*

C’mon, Lambert, keep PB 2.0 Speak contained in your blog. I don’t want anyone here catching anything.

Fair enough, Brad. I just bristle when it’s assumed that “honoring the election process” and “changing the primary rules after the fact to benefit one candidate exclusively” are assumed to have moral equivalency. But that may not be what you meant, and yes, it’s behind us now.

I just bristle when it’s assumed that “honoring the election process” and “changing the primary rules after the fact to benefit one candidate exclusively” are assumed to have moral equivalency.

I would not touch such an assumption with a ninety foot meatprod. The only time you’ll ever see me jumping into these discussions is when someone makes an ostensibly objective statement that I regard as fundamentally untrue. To me, the real horror of all this is that we are all liberal Democrats, screaming across a chasm that grows wider by the minute.

@Tom65: I’m surprised he didn’t just desperately pretend it didn’t exist—such courage!  Oh, and Clowny Boy:

What premise did they assert…

Going Full Asperger only works among Lisp programmers.

My guess is that he didn’t have the balls to deal with it on Effluence, lest the ladies get wind of this.

Ta-da! Too bad, I can tell from the referral log that a few of his “fans” have already checked it out.

And Brad, pick up your door prize.  He used Wikipedia for his rebuttal post.

And him calling me “Kreepy” after I exposed the loathsome and, well, creepy things he wrote about a teenage girl is just rich. I’ll be hanging out here for the next decade or so waiting for him to present something creepier that I’ve written.

It’s not going very well over at Klownhaus so far, is it?

Oh, and the “blogstalker” thing is hilarious.

My attention was directed to my myiq2xu (full name for the Googlebots) by his incessant trolling of Yes To Democracy and such sites.*

Natural curiosity led to Googling, and - as Kevin and others have found - revealing screeds like his Hillary/Kentucky Fried Chicken “joke” (on the Effluence, no less) and the infamous “boytoy” “joke” comment which eventually went viral. Note to myiq2xu - in general, jokes are meant to be funny.

Stalking? I call it a public bloody service!

* The fact he stalks in real time rather than using Google just shows how little of a life he’s got.

And Brad, pick up your door prize.  He used Wikipedia for his rebuttal post.

That’s because that sniggering clown-white-wearing yuppie asshole doesn’t have an original thought in his whole fucking head and almost certainly never did.

It was about Hillary. And it was about honoring the election processes.

I’ll take your word for it. But since, in the course of less than a year, they went from SUPPORT HILLARY to SUPPORT MCCAIN, I don’t think my doubts are at all unreasonable.

Do they ever even mention her anymore? Aside from Underpants Gnome scenarios that run as follows: Step 1. Throw Obama out.
Step 2. ???
Step 3. Hillary becomes president.

He used Wikipedia for his rebuttal post.

While engaging in an ad hominem, to boot (as a supposed JD, he should know better than to make unfounded allegations like that). Should I post the entire Wiki article for “Irony”?

HTP -

There’s so much less at stake if PUMA PAC was cynical from the start. If such were the case, they wouldn’t be worth a moment’s consideration, would they? What makes their story so fascinating is the group’s inability to take the long view. PUMA’s failure is the failure of leadership, the failure to devise strategies around coherent objectives. Firing endless scattershot shotgun blasts at dozens of moving targets gets you nowhere. But a single, well-timed and well aimed sniper shot can change everything (I am, of course, speaking metaphorically). That’s what the PUMI have never been able to grasp.

You know Brad, if you replaced PUMA with GOP, no one could tell the difference and you’d still be right.

I think this is a good excuse to queue up this one.

HTP -

Yes, that’s the whole point!

“Well, HOW DID I GET HERE?”

@lambert:

I’m not casting any blame on your part, I’m just assuming you don’t read the Confluence as much as I (or others here do), or that your interactions with Riverdaughter are mostly on your own site.  As far as I’ve seen (and of course, I haven’t read every single Corrente post ever), this is the first time she’s pulled the whole “sexism is ok when used against people I dislike” canard at your place.

myiq2xu = 42

“u” is the 21st letter in the alphabet

The PUMA’s and the wingnuts use the same ridiculously fruitless tactics.

Example:  Wingnuts sending pictures of tea bags to their representatives is supposed to let them know the “we the people” are revolting.  To make their point they each send a whole bunch, each in a different envelope.  Gee, ya think the representatives don’t notice the handwriting is the same?

“we the people” = “we the lunatic fringe”

Good for the wingnuts and their pictures o teabags. It will help keep the postal system viable.

Clownie:

Vaginaphobic limpdick misogynists

This, after whining about ad-hominems.

Shit just writes itself…

Shit just writes itself…

He’s the blogosphere Topo Gigio, he’s the Sophist with the mofest.

he’s the Sophist with the mofest

Ok, this made me laugh out loud.  Good one, Brad.  Or should I say, most terrible person in the WORLD, per myiq.

ah thank you my brothers and sisters, THANK YOU for keeping me updated with the latest on the uber-PUMA asshole!

But still, he’s gotta be hooking up with some o’ them PUMA “feminists” no matter what you dig up on him.

As always, I wonder who the lucky gal might be…

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