Vote for Rumproast in the Weblog Awards—The Sequel [NOW WITH MORE OPEN THREADINESS!]

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This is so fucking on! Don’t let the PUMAs win this thing.  They must not win anything. Ever. It is their destiny. Vote for Rumproast in the Weblog Awards for Best Small Blog. You can vote once every 24-hour period per computer. If any of our blog buddies could help us out with promoting this, we’d appreciate it. As an added bonus, every time you vote for Rumproast, a PUMA loses its roar.

You can read the previous action-packed thread here, but not until you vote.

MORE: Please also consider voting for friends of Rumproast Wonkette (vote here), Balloon Juice (vote here), Jon Swift (vote here), and Jesus’ General (vote here).

MORE: In case you didn’t click above, we’ve been Wonketted:

In “Best Small Blog,” we wholeheartedly endorse the excellent Rumproast blog, and you should vote for them daily. They have bravely been messing with the PUMAs since this summer, consistently, and with hilarious results. The PUMAs noticed that they’d been nominated in this category and are mobilizing their entire Internet loser base to prevent Rumproast from winning. Make Rumproast win.

Just a quick point of clarification, we’ve been messing with them since at least March, long before they came up with that utterly ridiculous acronym…

We also wholeheartedly endorse Jim Newell’s other pick ~ synthesis ~ for “Best New Blog.”  It’s really good and it’s up against a wide-eyed lunatic who writes for Flowbee, waves guns and puppies around, and hates Communists, especially when they win presidential elections and stuff.

MORE: The PUMAs are running around the blogotubes accusing Wonkette and Rumproast of “cheating” (as I noted in the earlier post, here are our sinister haxxing instructions) and they’ve been “prowling” the folks at the Weblogs Awards so much with their delusional accusations (“IT’S LIKE THE CAUCUSES ALL OVER AGAIN! BLORT!!!!!”) that host Kevin Aylward had to update the Awards FAQ:

Q: Site XX is cheating, why won’t you remove them from the contest?

A: First of all, upon what evidence are you basing your assertion that a particular site is cheating?  Do you have the logs, are you monitoring the polls?  Of course you’re not, that’s our job and you can ask any of the participants in previous editions where there were close call contests we check and double check everything.

Before you accuse other sites of cheating, I suggest you do some research.

Sometimes finalists vote totals spike up when they get a link or endorsement from a high traffic blog.  You can look things like this up by checking who is linking to the poll page with Technorati.  Often that’s a useful way to investigate who is sending traffic to a particular poll.

Our Site Meter is open, and you can use it to see the last 100 referring sites.  Somewhere in that list may be an explanation of where voters are coming from for a poll you care about.  Also, don’t discount the effects of campaigning via e-mail lists or forums some sites have done in the past to drum up support.  In short there are lots of ways for sites to get voters to the polls.  Don’t assume that just because you don’t understand how they are getting votes that they are somehow cheating.

It’s a seven day contest - surges and spike are to be expected.

Their inevitable conclusion will be that Kevin A. is an misogynistic obot and he must be destroyed.

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What happened to the comments? Have we been “prowled”? Is this the retribution Daragh warned us about?

Nevermind. Haven’t had my fifth cup of coffee yet.

Is this the retribution Daragh warned us about?

Was that in the “Overnight Happy Song” post?  Feist always drives them fucking crazy.

No, that was from the Wonkette thread yesterday. Not sure if it was her or not.

We have nearly a thousand more votes than Instapundit.

Heh. Indeed.

Roar.

Can someone please come in here and give me a hand with the cookie-wiping vote-pump? It’s making that squeally hull-warping/rivets-about-to-pop sound from Das Boot.

No, that was from the Wonkette thread yesterday. Not sure if it was her or not.

Well, since she hasn’t issued blood-curdling cries of “someone is pretending to be me at Wankette” yet, I guess we can assume that it was her.

Taggles aligns Effluence with Team Sarah - can we dispense with the notion that they’re a “liberal” site?

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/an-obo t-state-of-mind/

Comment by Tom65 on 01/07/09 at 10:44 AM

By the way, had an intersting email exchange with Daragh last night. I posted (or at least tried to post - it was deleted, natch) a comment on the irony of her quoting Molly Ivins when Molly was on the anti-Hills wagon two years ago, and Daragh decided I was too dumb to get the gist of the reference (that wimmins are weak and therefore should never be satirized (?)). I reminded her that Molly Ivins would have laughed her out of the innertubes. End of correspondence.

Tom - I find it amusing that in order to post “we are being accused of being racist when we are not” (paraphrase) with a straight and indignant face they have replaced the racist (step and fechit) “Spamalot” picture that was there only yesterday.  Funny dat.

Tom65 -

Ms. Tag just made a case for standing with racists.  I had visited there before they went private.  Even if what they say is true and they’ve been overrun by Obots, that doesn’t exclude what their regular posters say and do…Let ‘em become Stormfront redux and think that it won’t get out.  Glad to see they’re going to make Palin start distancing herself from supporters long before she even runs.

And this from the Team Sarah person in the RD post cracks me up:

We know who these people are through technological traces of where they are coming from (called IP Addresses) and other means.

I haven’t followed the Team Sarah stuff.  Do they do cage matches?

I was just reading through the confluenza and saw this from my!q:

I would estimate that about 20% of the comments we have deleted were from phony PUMAs posting racist crap and tin foil hat stuff..

How do they tell the fake crazy stuff from the real crazy stuff?  I’m just wondering what rule of thumb would keep Team Sarah on the right side of their line.

I would estimate that about 20% of the comments we have deleted were from phony PUMAs posting racist crap and tin foil hat stuff..

Yes indeed. They’ve got to maintain the purity of their precious bodily fluids.

Only REAL PUMAs should be allowed to post racist crap and tin foil hat stuff.

Wow. Taggles has a real barn-burner up at Riverchicks this morning.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/an-obo t-state-of-mind/

And once again, given the choice between walking the lonely road of Righteous Liberal Conviction and forming a queasy alliance-of-convenience with whatever wingnut biker club is springing for drinks on Ladies’ Night…well, you know already, don’t you?

So now, as we re-live the days of Obots bullying their way around the blogosphere once again, we need to stand tall and strong with Team Sarah. Team Sarah has been experiencing infiltration of their group from some people who have to much time on their hands. They are trying to infiltrate the group and use their dirty strategies to label women as racists and white supremacists. This is an Obot State of Mind. Reject it fully.

When God closes a door, he removes the cover on a manhole.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 01/07/09 at 11:17 AM

We know who these people are through technological traces of where they are coming from (called IP Addresses) and other means.

“Other means”?  Game over, man - GAME OVER!

Hum. Angienc2 in one fell post manages to alienate the octogenarian Weight Watchers vote and confuse equal opportunities snarking with *gasp* racism (still seeing Effluencers self-censoring the words r*cist and r*cism from force of habit from the days when such scurrilous terminology was banned):

afrocity — I think they are after you (1) cause you are pretty & that threatens them (i.e., they like to imagine that we are all 80 years old & about 350 lbs); (2) you are black & they (being the real r@cists) think that black people HAVE GOT TO VOTE 4 Obama/be Dems, & every other stereotype you can think of for black people.

Ripley—“Other means” = “spoor trail”?

Did you guys see myiq, angie, and afrocity have their panties in a bunch over a “death threat” posted at wonkette?

I put death threat in quotation marks because, you know, it was a famous and hilarious quote from Animal House that these joyless Pumas apparently have never seen, and not at all a death threat.

God they’re stupid.

thatguy—Thank you.

I’m surprised they didn’t mock the same poster for typing, “Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”

Those people are empty husks, man.

One positive development: they’re all obsessively taking showers after visiting Wonkette, so now their ladybits may be more fragrant than hitherto advertised by Riverdaughter. I don’t even want to think about their boybits. Oh.

And I look forward to the Secret Service’s reaction to that “death threat” report.

Oh dear.

This one appears to have slipped the leash:

hrc, on January 7th, 2009 at 11:47 am Said:

Interesting that myiq2xu’s IP address matches the one posting at Wonkette calling women “whores” and “cum receptacles.”

It will go *poof* in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 ...

more fragrant than hitherto advertised by Riverdaughter.

Yeah that was really weird.  I like how nobody objected to her characterization.

Oh man, that’s hysterical. Not one of those idiots picks up on the fact that it’s a quote from Animal House, and a fairly famous one at that. Whatever you do, don’t go quoting Caddyshack- they’ll call the police.

They are clearly not aware of all Internet Traditions.

Actually, I don’t know if that’s myiq posting as “Stupid Wonkette.” He’s dumb as dirt, but even I’d be amazed if he’s that fucking stupid. I’d send his IP address to Jim Newell, but I think they’re PUMAed out already.  They haven’t done the intense training that we have.

I’m not sure either, Kevin (and I was wrong, a different strategy is under way).

But his reaction’s weird (OK, I know, what’s new?):

myiq2xu, on January 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am Said:

This is funny - on my earlier thread a troll named”hrc” posted this:

Interesting that myiq2xu’s IP address matches the one posting at Wonkette calling women “whores” and “cum receptacles.”

How did a troll get my IP address?

(RD, KB and/or BB can see what my IP address is)

myiq2xu, on January 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am Said:

Only a site moderator at a blog can see IP addresses.

And weirder ...

myiq2xu, on January 7th, 2009 at 11:57 am Said:

Why would a Wonkette moderator be living in Sun Valley California?

Wonkette is a DC based blog.

(I can see IP addresses here too, and whois will trace them)

Myiq, old chap. A word of advice: If you’re in a hole, best to stop digging.

If you’re in a hole, best to stop digging.

Too late. This will be moving to the Effluence soon. Okay, I give up, maybe he is that fucking stupid.

I’ve been battling the Confluence folks (and their silly sister sights) ever since they tried to say that Obama flicked hillary off by scratching his face.

Nice to see that others took up the mantle against ridiculousness.

Kudos and you have my vote.

Pre-election PUMA comedy gold

Also, it appears that Bower’s Facebook account was temporarily shut down at some point, which was attributed to pro-Obama censorship.

There are few things more fun than torturing the puma kitties.

Red State PUMA comedy gold

There is a sixth reason to believe that the GOP candidate will pull this one out of the fire, and, like the other five, it is a topic you won’t read much about in the newspapers or see on the alphabet television networks, all of which are in the tank for Obama. It’s the PUMA factor.

It’s the PUMA factor.

That’s why I instituted a PUMA moratorium during the general election here.  I was hoping the Repubs would fall for PUMAxaggerations and, boy, did they ever.

I hate this war.

We hit them. They hit us. And who really suffers? Why, the innocent, as always.

And who wins? Nobody.

Anyone here remember PhillyPUMA? Nice guy. He got caught behind the lines at pumaPAC. They put one in his cock just for giggles, then two in the hat to put him down. Pop! Pop! Just like that. Like a mangy dog. Gone. Nice guy. I remember he liked…jujubes. Yeah, jujubes.

And I ask myself, why would a loving God permit something this terrible, this destructive, to go on? What kind of Deity sits back and lets his own children gut each other like pigs at the slaughter?

I don’t know. I’m not sure I know anything anymore.

I just wish it would stop, even for a second. I wish that, just once, I could close my eyes at night without wondering…

Hey. Is somebody playing a harmonica?

Wonkette comedy gold:

loquaciousmusic says at 10:26 am, January 7th, 2009

Guys, we really have to remain vigilant with our voting. I’ve received an anonymous tip that The Confluence votes are grossly underrepresented. Up until this morning, the ladies were all voting using a Speak ‘n’ Spell until one of their husbands lent them a laptop.

THEY MAY STILL PULL THIS OFF!

This just may go down as one of the best blog wars ever. I mean, Speak ‘n’ Spell, c’mon! Standing O.

Comment by Kevin K. on 01/07/09 at 12:49 PM

My God, that was so much fun yesterday.

Anyone here remember PhillyPUMA? Nice guy

Yeah, poor dude was castrated for supporting the Hillary-hating Franken.

bostonboomer, on January 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am Said:

Does anyone know what a “speak and spell” is? I’m just curious.

It gets even funnier:

bostonboomer, on January 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am Said:

Does anyone know what a “speak and spell” is? I’m just curious.

So they’ve never seen Animal House and they’ve never had kids.

Does anyone know what a “speak and spell” is? I’m just curious.

Does anyone know what a Google is?  I’m just curious.

On top of that I’ve got myiq frantically doing a whois on a dynamic IP.

Yeah, that was me.

And DancesWithPumas went and publicized my name.  Isn’t that a blog warcrime?

Oh wait!!
Isn’t Rob Landing “PhillyPuma”??
anyone know?

http://pumapac.org/2009/01/06/wankette/#comment-271032

It’s a good thing she doesn’t also know my address, because she would gleefully post it on the PAC for the roving band of man haters to hunt me down.

(PS, my address is 123 Fake Street, Anytown USA 01234.  Don’t tell Dances!)

Comment by GhostOfPhillyPUMA on 01/07/09 at 12:58 PM

Kevin,

I’m glad you responded to the nonsense at the awards forum.

Anything to make these paranoid, whining harpies to STFU is good in my book.  They can’t get votes because they can’t find any blogs other than their own to support them.

The possessed doll, Chucky plays with a Speak and Spell while imprisoned in a crib in Bride of Chucky.

I’m glad you responded to the nonsense at the awards forum.

Yeah, felt I had to say something.  Everyone do me a favor and don’t turn their forum into a flame war.  I just wanted to simply state my case and get out because I know they’ve been flooded with complaints.  The Awards folks have enough to worry about.  Thanks.

Don’t assume that just because you don’t understand how they are getting votes that they are somehow cheating.

Oh Mr. Aylsward.

Spittin’ in the wind.

Strange: not enough strength to heap on your head the encomiums you deserve. It is a regular Carmen Miranda hat of encomiums.

One other thing ... we have a very strict policy of not outing people here on Rumproast, even if they’re cretins.  I recently had to delete a comment that revealed the true identity of someone who uses an alias.  I try not to impose too many rules here, but that’s one of them.  Just wanted to pass that along.  Sorry “PhillyPUMA” had to deal with that bullshit. I know other blogs don’t mind it, but I don’t allow that here.

We now return to our regularly scheduled broadcast.

Here’s our pal over at Ace of Spades desperately trying to drum up support for Nice Deb:

Nice Deb is getting freeped by Wonkette.

Posted by: myiq2xu at January 07, 2009 10:14 AM

And then…

*crickets*

Is there a blog in the world left besides the Effluence where they tolerate him anymore, aside from Balloon Juice where he’s utilized exclusively as a punching bag?

Mrs. Polly—You are too kind. I felt this was the appropriate moment for a suitably rage-filled soliloquy against the madness of men.

Of course, having typed that, I will almost certainly throw myself on a hand grenade in Act 3…to save a small boy, or a wounded enemy whose own humanity has struck a chord of kinship. It’s a given.

Thor’s fucking hammer, that forum brings the crazy!  Samples:

While I know Wonkette is a larger site then The Confluence, I cannot believe that it has more votes then all the other nominees combined in the “Best Liberal Blog” category. I think this warrant further investigation by you. Thank you.

Does the Weblog Awards Committee support such divisive, mean-spirited tactics? Does it endorse blog assassination? Does it tolerate politically motivated manipulation of its voting process? Would it ignore—and thereby abet—such tactics as Wonkette’s if they were directed against minority blogs such a The Black Sphere because the blogger is African American? I put it to you that prejudice against a blogger and her voter because they are PUMA’s is exactly the same as prejudice against them because they were Black, Hispanic, Native American, or any other group.

The fact that [Wonkette] has more votes than all of the competition added up, and the fact that rumproast has also increased in votes as a result of wonkettes “call to arms” and cheating instructions should tell you clearly what you need to know about whether they are cheating or not.

Blog assassination?  That’s a god damned keeper, kids!

Hey. Is somebody playing a harmonica?

What a finish!  Bravo.

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!! Help, help!! I’m being repressed!!

Bloody peasant.

BTW, show some love for Betty and Mrs. Polly down below the stickiness.

snerk

Angry Black Guy, on January 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm Said:
myiq2xu:
Why is it that people are surprised that when yu insult people by calling them mysoginist and sexist over and over again, that they may actually decide that a few insults back would be warranted.

I feel bad for “Chatting at the Sky.” Had the PUMAs not turned this into yet another one of their EPIC FAILS, they probably would have won. They seem like nice enough folks.  I’m sorry they got caught in the crossfire.

Okay, now I’m going to go back to being a dick. ;)

...and then they (myiq<trigs) deleted ABG’s comments. What a surprise.

Oh lookie, from Wonkette:

myiq2xu says at 1:26 pm, January 7th, 2009 - Reply
Fat chicks in muumuus make me hard.

Is there a blog in the world left besides the Effluence where they tolerate him anymore, aside from Balloon Juice where he’s utilized exclusively as a punching bag?

UPDATE: Jon Cole showed him the door in no uncertain terms a little while back, during the Favreau debacle when myiq2xu pushed just a little bit too hard:

John Cole December 9th, 2008 at 9:23 am Reply to this comment

MYIQ, you racist loser PUMA, do you want to know what is like rape?

Rape, you stupid fuck.

You know what is not like rape at all? Some jackasses pouring beer into a cardboard cut-out.

If you can’t figure out the difference, just gtfo of here. What Favreau and his friends did was clearly immature and stupid, and since they apologized, they are clearly embarassed, but for Breitbart to compare it to a barroom rape and for you nitwit racists Hillary fetishists to sieze on it as if it was rape is ridiculous.

Go to hell. You are not welcome here anymore.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=14433#comment-1102366

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 02:03 PM

Uppity Woman is blowing a gasket over losing Best New Blog.  This thread is full of win.  I don’t know where to begin. And our buddy Jon Swift is over there trying to lure them in. The Wonkette-endorsed blogger (it’s a really good blog, check it out) is feeling pretty bad about it, too:

Hell - I was just hoping not to be dead-last:)! Thanks to all the Wonkettes out there!

Posted by: shafeen | Jan 06, 2009 at 17:48

MYIQ, you racist loser PUMA, do you want to know what is like rape?

Rape, you stupid fuck.

I love it when Cole loses his shit all over commenters.  That’s a classic. I guess myiq1/2u still feels the sting:

myiq2xu, on January 7th, 2009 at 1:13 pm Said:

I thought Balloon Juice was bad, but they’re boy scouts compared to the Wanktards.

That comes from a post where he questions the “humanity” of the Wonkette community ... WHILE MAKING FUN OF THE MENTALLY DISABLED.

Someone get a prowl together! Make sure you cc: Donna Brazile and the Fowlers!

Wow. They’re taking it seriously over there, huh?

So much for the “Do we look bothered?” meme.

So much for the “Do we look bothered?” meme.

Yeah, she so doesn’t care that she reposted it at Flowbee’s Fortress of Fucknuttery. Maybe that’ll work for her.  I think that gets far and away more traffic than the rest of the PUMA blogs.  Then again, more than half of it is probably giggling rubberneckers.

It seems the incessant mewling and raspy washcloth-like tongues of the big catz are beginning to pall on myqwho? and he is longing to return to the days of punchingbaghood. For here he is under his clever sobriquet at Wonkette, saying “Please Ma’am, may I have another?”:

Stupid Wonkette says at 7:49 pm, January 6th, 2009
- Reply
Wow, now how many stupid ass wonkettes can I get to devote Like 400 posts to me?

IP addresses nothing, his sad quest for negative attention and his shabby quiver with two bent arrows (“I’m LIKE imitating the speech of LIKE young people” and “non-PUMA woman = whore), they’re his DNA.

And Blessed Ladybits, he took what they dished out for HOURS, including this:

lousylover says at 6:55 pm, January 6th, 2009
- Reply
Stupid Wonkette: Not steel. Platinum darlin. Platinum pussies and don’t you forget it. And the Gopher and the Seminole and the Muffin and the Hanger and the Vowel Movement and yes me, the Lousy Lover, are following our leader Shorts…and we are off to fucking Washington to see the Wizard. Get your ass back to Kansas, Dorothy…you just ain’t growed up enough to live in the world of colors.

Snicker. Again from Wonkette:

myiq2xu says at 2:24 pm, January 7th, 2009 - Reply
I’d totally blow Joe the Plumber.

They’re getting very…..shrill over there at PumaPac.
They are SO mad at Wonkette.
Aw.

Linnet - “shrill” is a way of life over there.

Let’s see how long it takes for them to delete this one:

muumuupuma, on January 7th, 2009 at 2:58 pm Said:
I’ll vote right after I watch Wheel. Can’t miss my Wheel.

Oh my word, I have so much goddamned work to do, and yet, here I am, right here, in man-hell-woman-hating heaven. I haven’t had this much fun since I stumbled into the buxombiF4BuxombiF chatroom on AOL in 1998.

From the uppity’s ....

Liberty Belle not for Obama, on January 6th, 2009 at 10:24 PM Said:

Uppity, I followed the PUMA PAC link they sent via Email to vote for you, and just a few minutes ago, you were ahead.

And yet, I see Wonkette is way ahead of The Confluence, which I find hard to believe, and yet, if they’ve targeted PUMAs, they’d vote for Hitler of us. (Oh - I forgot - they already did vote Hitler, so to speak, in November…)

Guess they rig votes in the Caucuses, the Primaries, the DNC RBC, the Convention, and now, on-line Blog polls.

When will the fraud and corruption end?

(Take it they are Obamabots trying to sabotage, right?)

I find it hard to believe that these people are actually employable in any profession that does not include a fryer alarm.

ROAR the Lesbos (not the Island, silly)

Grace Chu, on January 6th, 2009 at 10:26 PM Said:

(1) I sent the admins a link to this post and an excerpt from Wonkette. Wonkette is actually one of my favorite blogs, but this shit is so retarded.

(2) Hey Wonkette - nine lesbians write on my blog, and you don’t want to mess with a group of pissed off lesbians.

(3) I apologize on behalf of liberals everywhere.

(4) I didn’t even know what a PUMA was until this competition. I prefer cougars anyway. They’re hotter.

I prefer women who have wimmmin bits and know how to use them, sorta like for frying bacon in a pan and never, ever letting me forget I’m a man. Where’s my goddamned sandwich!!111!!!!

Fair warning. I don’t want to see any Rumproasters’ heads exploding. Brace.

[quote]myiq2xu, on January 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pm Said:

How do we fight misogyny if we don’t face it and call it out?

*is speechless*

And apparently incapable of closing quote tags. Oh well. Meanwhile, in Gaza ...

WTF???

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28542733/

WTF???

Comment by Tom65 on 01/07/09 at 03:09 PM

A word about the outing of “Rob Landing” as PhillyPUMA.

I saw Kevin’s kind words above, and I wanted to clarify for anyone who was worried about my outing, that “Rob Landing” is a very, very, fake name I made up when I signed up for the throwaway email account I used. 

In fact, I signed up over the summer to request a group discount to the big DC puma conference for lulz.  I didn’t put much time into it, though, because I was busy with work and getting Obama elected and all.

So when PhillyPUMA joined the PAC, “Rob Landing” just kindof came along for the ride.  Danceswithpumas thought that she was outing me, but she wasn’t. I would never let those hags learn my real name.

It does say what kind of horrible person dances is though!  It doesn’t matter that it’s a fake name, she thought it was real.  What a spiteful bitch!

Anyway, I was feeling guilty because I was afraid that there might actually be a guy from Philly out there named “Rob Landing” who might be collateral damage of the Great Puma Blogwar of Aught Nine.  I did some googling, and not really.  It’s not a terribly uncommon name, but most of the hits are for guys named Rob who are landing airplanes.

I guess for my next incursions I’ll continue with the avionic theme; Susan Takeoff, Mary Climbing, Becky Banking, etc.  So when you see Dances outing somebody named “Amanda Autopilot,” well that’s me.

Good grief. Either I’ve had a mini-stroke or the NQ threads are full of non sequitur posts and unintelligible dribblings. Is it just me?

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/07/ok-gang- we-are-a-comrade-target/#comments

And Kevin - Does your post of the day have to come from Rumproast? If not, I know the competition’s stiff at the moment what with the Wonkette/PUMA thing and all, but:

Comment by obamastolemyboyfriend(akaCsuzeq) | 2009-01-07 13:12:22

OMG! I knew we were seeing the end of America if we got BHO, but it is worse than I imagined.

Welcome to democratistan!

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 03:18 PM

At least UW could get current and call us “terrorists”.  I don’t think anyone gets too riled up over calls that the Commies are coming anymore.

Great googly-moogly, the PUMA-Wonkette collision has been bad for my productivity for the last 24 hours. Good thing I’m self-employed or I’d be SO fired…

Good thing I’m self-employed or I’d be SO fired…

And I thank goodness that I’ve been working a late shift from home this week.  If I were at the office, I would have missed all of this.

RE: Tom65’s “WTF?!1!” link to the Joe the Plumber goes to the Middle East as war correspondent story, my favorite comment on it so far comes from our beloved Wonkette commenters, one of whom said:

…god, I hate this shytbag! Does Hamas have paypal?!

Truly, sending that lunkhead to Gaza is the stupidest idea since nominating Harriet Christian to take over Hillary Clinton’s senate seat. Leave it to the wingnuts to match halfwits with the PUMAtards.

Here’s the latest PUMA Pac prowl:

Dear Friends,

I’m asking you to help me out today with something that won’t take more than five minutes of your time, is totally free, and is a way to stick up for the Under Dog. Yay! A couple of blogs that I support have been nominated for a prestigious blogging award and they deserve a fair chance to win. These are Democratic, liberal blogs that are really quite popular with their readers. The trouble is, nasty readers and bloggers from some of the biggest blogs on the internet have decided to sabotage the voting and crush my pals with tricks, cheating, and intimidation. It really stinks.

I would be SO grateful if you would just visit the Awards site and cast a vote for my friends at the smaller blogs. It would be so great to show these cheaters and nasty bloggers that, in the end, cheaters never win.

Thanks a lot!

Vote here for The Confluence: http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-liberal-blog/

Vote here for Uppity Woman: http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-new-blog/

Vote here for Nice Deb: http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-small-blog/

Nice Deb will probably be somewhat shocked (and offended) to find out she runs a “Democratic, liberal blog.” I hope no one tells her friends.

These are Democratic, liberal blogs

I thought they didn’t consider themselves Democrats anymore.  What happened to the new, third-way, PUMA[!] Party?

From Murphy:

but you’re right ##### — teh BOIZ blogs really have become the equivalent of Shoppers Mags that you see everywhere. 300 pages of ads and around 10 pages of content.

The sad part is that the nitwits who blog at these places dont know that.

Pumas, go do a tour of the political blogs — the women-owned sites are FAR less likely to have any ads whatsoever — and the few that do only have a few, like Shakesville.

Murphy, in advertising, we have an explanation for this. But I won’t stop you. You’re on a roll.

I’m glad to see that TPM is finally beating The Conflagration for Best Liberal Blog.  If that keeps up, Riverchucky will have a respectable show.

Murphy, in advertising, we have an explanation for this. But I won’t stop you. You’re on a roll.

Strange, there’s a crazy guy around here that gos to all the local political events and hands out the Socialist Worker paper, or some such La Rouche material.

I noticed that there is SIGNIFICANTLY less advertising in the socialist worker than in all the local papers, and thus I conclude that the Socialist Worker is way better than all those BOIZ papers.

Murphy, I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

DemUnderground is on it, too.

#####:

mountainsong, yes, pumitizing is a yo-yo thing and it might not be that good for your karma–if all you are thinking about is yourself in this moment. But we are thinking about our futures and the futures of all American’s children. Sometimes the things that are worth doing are also hard. You are lucky you have such a wise person to help you ground yourself–we all need this kind of renewal, especially when we come into contact with this hate.

Hey, is somebody playing a harmonica?

New puma post on Wonkette. I guess the war is back on.

I put it to you that prejudice against a blogger and her voter because they are PUMA’s is exactly the same as prejudice against them because they were Black, Hispanic, Native American, or any other group.

Wait, what?  We have a new protected class?

Sigh.

I’ll have to update my anti-harrassment training Powerpoint slides forthwith.

And Kevin, speaking of harrassment, in order to post the above comment I was forced to type the offensive phrase “perform69” in the little box below.

You’ll be hearing from Gloria Allred.

DemUnderground is on it, too.

Anyone have a DU account? We need representation! Even better, does anyone know a Something Awful member.  I didn’t want to go “there,” but if Darrugh is trying to pass off Nice Deb as a “Democratic, liberal blog,” might as well.  Hell, I know from the logs they were linking to Rumproast a lot when Wonk and I (and a few other folks) were working our magic pre-PUMA.

New puma post on Wonkette. I guess the war is back on.

Woohoo!

No ... wait ... fuck, that means I won’t get anything done for at least two more days.

Oh shit, I just busted a vein laughing and it only took a few seconds. I didn’t even have to read anything.

Oh shit, I just busted a vein laughing and it only took a few seconds. I didn’t even have to read anything.

Just wait until the kitties see some of those posts.

See the sexism inherent in the system!  See the sexism inherent in the system!

kiki, on June 2nd, 2008 at 7:11 pm Said:

I’d like a tie-dye puma. or a puma in a pantsuit.

and shouldn’t our logo include…lipstick on a puma?

 

Real PUMA or not, that’s a right giggler.

I should have noted that comment is on one of the first Confluence threads, from last Summer.

Oh mah lawd ... a fella’s avatar is a head shot of the Great Pumpkin ... errr .. Ms. Beagle of the Bacon Grease ...

Reefpilot says at 4:21 pm, January 7th, 2009
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I think this is wonkette distracting from the main issue: JOE THE PLUMBER GOES TO ISRAEL.

But anyway… you assholes like my new avatar? Made it myself. Home cooked, down here in the american pig-fuckin’ south.

The Wonkette/PUMA blog war, distilled to its purest essence:

The Cold Sea says at 4:37 pm, January 7th, 2009

Done, done and done. Suck it, PUMA blog we’ve never heard of!

snicker

ROAR!!!1111!!!!!ELEVENTY!!!

grevillea says at 4:24 pm, January 7th, 2009
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ARITHMETIC IS PATRIARCHY!

Whoever that Stupid Wonkette person was yesterday: I would blow you, twice. Maybe forever if you did that again.

That is all.

BTW, more arrests in the not-Ashley-Todd case no one in the Obot-lovin’ media covered.

More wisdom from the murph over at wonkette;

MurphyPUMA says at 5:51 pm, January 7th, 2009
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When you guys start arguing with the fake “Darragh Murphy” you are arguing with yourselves, you know that don’t you? poor obot boiz, you are so lost.

it’s gotta be murph, who talks like that?

That’s what is so goddamn funny about it. Everyone is up in arms, freaking out, trying to get a rise…. to participate in such horrible tom foolery was seemingly a necessity for this particular pair of shorts. God Bless ‘Merica.

If they’d just left this alone, Uppity Woman probably would have won and I wouldn’t have been in first place. If they want to take my advice (which they won’t, but whatever), they’d just back off and not fuck with Wonkette anymore.

The kitty blogs are pretty quiet today. I wonder if there’s a cheesecake sale or something.

justlen, I noticed the same thing.

Honestly, I think they’re dispirited.  Check out their joy and excitement from 12/30/08 when the weblog award finalists were announced.  They were so excited.  What’s more, they really thought they had it in the bag.

They thought they had arrived, and were finally getting some recognition and affirmation from the real world, instead of derision and mockery. And then, it all came crashing down in 24 hours.

They’re not at the cheesecake sale.  They’re cuddled up under the covers with ice cream, kittens, and Harlequin novels.

I make a habit of never making fun of someone’s spelling.  Here, I’ll make an exception: (confluenza)

Many, many years ago, Catholic hospitals refused to perfrom anortions.

“Anortion” sounds like an interesting combination of “anoint” and “abortion.” I wonder if they have “anortion on demand.”

Wonkette made me vote.  So… I did.
Thanks for letting me comment.  Wonkette doesn’t let unregistered comment.  wah!
Meanwhile… had a fine time here viewing the puma videos.  Loved ‘em.

You guys are being SOOOOO bad at Wonkette.  I love it!

I want to get a comfortable lead so that we can engineer a solid second place finish for Chatting.  I would only do that because Nice Deb is a moonbat.

You guys are being SOOOOO bad at Wonkette.  I love it!

Who, us? Never!

“Many, many years ago, Catholic hospitals refused to perfrom anortions.”

No sillies! it was *anoint abortions.

/fixed.

Kevin—I was thinking that too.  Alternating home/work votes between rumproast and chatting.

The spoof myiq, daragh and RD over at Wonkette are bleeding hilarious.  I am betting they have no idea what is going on over there.  There goes another day of getting nothing achieved :)

Agh, thank you BillyClub.  PUMA-pox must be contagious.

The thing is, you have to prescribe to the notion of very long and VERY LOUD DIATRIBES to get the Wonkette peoples to go nutty. I’ll start up the TOR and see what I can do at some point.

hilarious:

angienc2, on January 7th, 2009 at 6:51 pm Said:
Prolix — thanks for letting me know — I hate wading through that cesspool over there but you are right, I was curious. But really, consider the source — one of them calls me an an “effluence” as a put down — really how can I be insulted? He obviously has no fucking idea what “effluence” means because that makes NO sense. The other insult was talking about how big my “mudflaps” are — not being fluent in 14 year old virgin “slang” I’m not 100% sure what that means, but I think the implication is that I’m fat — my avatar was taken about a year ago so you can see I’m not fat & I’m not one of those low self-esteem women who think they are fat when they are not — them calling me fat means less then nothing to me. They obviously want to fuck me so badly they can’t even hide it. Too bad for them, I only have sex with humans, not animals.
Most hilariously though, someone over there is using the name “myiq2xu” and saying such stupid things — and they are pretending it is him! To call them morons is an insult to morons.
And yes, they are not focusing on ensuring TPM gets second place & that we come in last in the web awards — why the fuck do they care — because they can’t handle the fact that they are inept, useless wastes of sperm & we have pointed that out to them.

This is too funny not to post all over the place. It’s from ~synthesis~:

Wonkettes are a bunch of self-congratulatory, delusional gadflys. You ought to read their blog before you thank them.

Posted by: portia9 | Jan 07, 2009 at 15:50

Shafeen, your blog is very nice, but I can’t help but notice that your participation is much smaller than that of your nearest competitors, Uppity Woman & the Black Sphere.

I’m sure you are aware that the older, larger blog wonkette, is instructing their readers to vote for you, not becuz they like your site, or ever bothered to look at it, but in order to spite the Uppity Woman blog because they are/were Hillary Clinton supporters. I can see from your posts that you are honorable as well as intelligent, and would probably rather win an award the old fashioned way, rather than as the result of hatefulness and divisiveness.

Therefore, I have a suggestion for you that will undoubtedly make you a hero with thousands of “puma fans” and increase your blog activity: if the wonkettes prevail, and you win, why not step down and decline the award for the reason that you don’t wish to condone the “fixing” of the races by the older, bigger, bully blogs? There are hundreds of small puma blogs and I guarantee you that you would achieve hero/cult status among them if you took such a bold stand for integrity.

If you disagree, that’s fine, and I hope you won’t take offense. Best wishes to you!

Posted by: Annie | Jan 07, 2009 at 15:39

Hell - I was just hoping not to be dead-last:)! Thanks to all the Wonkettes out there!

Posted by: shafeen | Jan 06, 2009 at 17:48

You, by default of Wonkette chance, are the best new blog in America. Check the link. Congratulations.

Posted by: miserable denizen | Jan 06, 2009 at 15:52


_________
Gold. Comedy. Gold.

For those of you enjoying the festivities over at Wonkette, let’s keep this in mind.

The goal is outright humiliation and rendition of irrelevance.

Let’s put Wonkette, TPM, and - for the stiletto in the back of the head, right below the base of the skull - Taylor Marsh into a win/place/show order for best pinko librul blog.

Thanks for playing, roasters!

I’ve been voting for Taylor. Their heads will asplode.

And TM has turned into a pretty decent site.

angienc is the Effluents, or whatever-it-is, version of jen4hil, except more foul-mouthed and mean-spirited, with a heap o’vanity to boot. J4H’s fury is frightening but at least understandable. It even has a sort of purity to it. But Angie’s interior oozes a nasty stuff studded with bits of racism mixed with contempt for the very people who are supposedly her PUMA friends: she’s not an old fatty! She’s much uglier.

Here’s a sample of the dainty creature (and if you value your appetite, you might want to skip this):

angienc2, on January 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm Said:
Regency — the msm has been sucking on Obama’s manflute for so long they can’t quite him.
I guess the saying that “once you go black” is true.
btw: is that r@cist? ’cause my instinct says it is, but now I don’t know what the eff is and isn’t r@cist anymore. seriously.

Well, I believe her on that score, anyway.

Regency doesn’t cover herself with glory in her answer, either. They are both college students, you know, the age Obots are supposed to be. I hesitate to snark such clueless youngsters generally, but angienc is such a nasty piece of work. Jenn4H is a poor sad disturbed thing whose money apparently came in handy for Murphy’s PUMA radio spectacular. Her manipulators are the monsters.

I just posted something at RD’s site which would (one would assume) would be totally in line with their agenda.  It was a post lauding Universal Health Care and Hillary’s support of it.  (I am British remember I am a huge fan of the NHS) I am curious as to whether it survives the troll filter and gets through.  We shall see.

It did survive, but excited a heap of “Nyah nyah Obama’s not for UHC, keep up” etc. from the usual suspects.

Since myiq has his beady eye fixed on this thread, I’m not sure what your chances of getting a follow-up through are, but it might be worth a go if you’re up for it.

I don’t appreciate you spamming my serious posts ... take it to the next one please.

my next post is more up your alley, it’s about porn

and my post wasn’t on universal health care and it didn’t mention hillary.  it was on inefficiency and high costs in the US health care system.  can you read?

Yeah, it’s an important post about health care goddammit, so any comments about health care are unwarranted. Instead, you should have commented about how Darragh has managed to hoodwink out of cash and now we all feel like 42-year former porn queens who can only get work at border donkey shows. What a shame and goddamn you to hell for commenting on-topic you self-hating woman, if that’s what you really are.

Psst, Humboldt, they seem to have assumed litlebrit is a woman.

On a lighter note, it looks like myiq2xu is going to take out lawsuits against the Wonketters:

myiq2xu, on January 7th, 2009 at 7:49 pm Said:

“pay them no mind”

Why? I’m thinking of early retirement with some nice causes of action.

I’m gonna have to get into Westlaw for the federal stuff cuz that’s not my cup of tea, but I bet there is some fun to be had. They passed a bunch of new laws on cyberstalking and other internet crimes.

Proof is usually hard, but these asshats posted it all.

Myiq2xu ... suing someone else for cyberstalking ... Oh God, I think my irony circuits just overloaded. Must lie down.

Scratch that first line. I meant they thought she was a man. Oh nevermind.

Humboldt blues ... interesting pseudo name.  Yes, I’m a woman. Can’t speak to the PumaPac thing. Didn’t donate. Don’t know about it.  As for self-hating, where did you get your psychiatry degree from?  Do you make over the screen diagnoses like Rick Santorium?

where did you get your psychiatry degree from?

I got it from the RiverChucky school of dumbassery and incontinence. I have a Master’s in Banality, a JD (that stands for Justica Dumasseira) and a BA in Smartass 2000.

As for Santorum, isn’t he a hero over there? I mean, he’s from Pennsylvania (where Hillary like, totally kicked ass), he hates Democrats and wants to control a woman’s body with his Pope-Sanctioned GI Joe Iron Grip.

As for Santorum, isn’t he a hero over there?

oh, yeah, I just love it when men are more interested in what goes on between women’s legs than anything else in the world. did i mention my current thread over there was about Larry Flyntt and the porn industry? i’m sure your an expert on that.

everything’s a tidy little package that fits into a tidy little hole to you, isn’t it?

everything’s a tidy little package that fits into a tidy little hole to you, isn’t it?

You’re not even trying to be subtle, devil woman!  This isn’t one of those sex sites where you can talk dirty and meet hot singles and have dirty computer sex!

Get your rocks off somewhere else, Horny Hannah!

Another gem from the Wonkers ...

Rumproast -which I have voted for here and at work since being ordered to do so -is a cooking blog, right?

Only when Iceberg is around, otherwise, it’s a stealth porn site specializing in Crisco-based sex acts and roosters.

This isn’t one of those sex sites where you can talk dirty and meet hot singles and have dirty computer sex!

Oops, I take that back, sorry Rip.

We are really a neighborly blog, featuring pictures of cute kittens and frogs. *ahem*

You’re not even trying to be subtle, devil woman!

Well, let’s just say i figured that subtlety wasn’t your strong point over here so i was just trying to relate on your level.  and don’t worry, i’m not a pedaphile so i wouldn’t be interested in you

We are really a neighborly blog, featuring pictures of cute kittens and frogs.

“That cat was the best fuck I ever had…” - Steve Martin

Dakinikat—Tell myiq2xu to cut and paste this while he’s reporting posts here back to base:

myiq2xu March 14th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
...
What is Hillary’s core constituency? Women.
Older, yet “liberated” women.
At 47 years old, I am a “boy toy.”
Since they are post-menopausal, that means they don’t swell, they don’t tell, and they’re grateful as hell.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=9901#comment-556885

eeeer I AM a woman, ya know I figured that telling everyone over here for the longest time that I was a member of the Womans Royal Naval Service that people would have sort of caught on.  Or something.

There was a little gender confusion there, litlebrit, which I’d hoped to clear up, and I don’t think any of it involved you. I blame this keyboard. *naughtykeyboardrollnespapersmacknose*

I was a member of the Womans Royal Naval Service

Yeah, yeah, yeah, woman, You know you just liked those turtleneck sweaters and great big warm jackets the men sailors wear so you joined up—- FOR THE CLOTHES!!!!!!

We can’t even pay our bills, and she’s in the Rooooyal Naval Service!

Dakinikat—Tell myiq2xu to cut and paste this while he’s reporting posts here back to base:

ah, the classics never go out of style do they? what’s more interesting to you dreams or delusions?

ah, the classics never go out of style do they? what’s more interesting to you dreams or delusions?

Well, you guys have definitely got the delusions thing down.

Would love to stay and chat more but timer is going off in the kitchen (making hot Reubens for all you guys - back soon.)

note to self:  remember to tell myiq2xu that 47 is not a boy toy at ANY age

No shit ... she’s all like ...

not the regular commoner Navy, that’s for those dirty fucking Irish and their goddamned rowboats ... we’re the goddamned ROYAL Navy where every night before bed we kneel before out gilded photo of the Queen and masticate…

Dakinikat—Tell myiq2xu to cut and paste this while he’s reporting posts here back to base:

ah, the classics never go out of style do they? what’s more interesting to you dreams or delusions?

Way to dodge the issue.

I think we’ve established that what’s most interesting to us is the rampant hypocrisy you practice and the free passes for your pet anti-misoqynist troll.

what’s more interesting to you dreams or delusions?

Like I dream, shit woman, I haven’t had a dream since 1986 following the great Battle of Pastrami Gulch which left me with one eye, a frozen left nut and a case of talking with a fake accent like that fake fucking french guy from Hogan’s Heroes.

Therefore, I have a suggestion for you that will undoubtedly make you a hero with thousands of “puma fans” and increase your blog activity:

Translation: “I have a suggestion that will make you attractive to hundreds of hungry little maggots that will crawl over your very soul and feast upon your flesh until you go insaaaaaaaane.”

if the wonkettes prevail, and you win, why not step down and decline the award for the reason that you don’t wish to condone the “fixing” of the races by the older, bigger, bully blogs? There are hundreds of small puma blogs and I guarantee you that you would achieve hero/cult status among them if you took such a bold stand for integrity.

Translation: “I think you’re dumber than John McPOW. Why not show everyone what a maverick you are by doing exactly what I tell you?”

Christ all mighty, there seems to be no lower limit to the stupid and not higher limit to the funny.

Can you even decline a WA?

you guys have definitely ...

ah, the ever enlightened ‘you people’ charge, thank you, since I’m of irish descent can I also assume you’ll call me dirty shanty or irish lace, ask me about my love of whiskey, and try to speak in a loud brogue to communicate with me also?

(making hot Reubens for all you guys - back soon.)


mmmm… Hot Reubens. That sounds deeee-lish. Last girlfriend was too goddamned skinny and frigid, I like me some hot Reubenesque mommas tho ... wityh extra dressing ....

... and cheese

I HATE it when people like dakinikat come over here and spew their vile filth.

Doesn’t anyone on that blog have a job?

everything’s a tidy little package that fits into a tidy little hole to you, isn’t it?

Oh, good christ, I was going to come in and ask people to be nice to you, but, after I read that, fuck it. Ron Asheton died yesterday. My sympathy is spread pretty thin.

I think we’ve established that what’s most interesting to us is the rampant hypocrisy you practice and the free passes for your pet anti-misoqynist troll

I really can’t speak to on the Confluence because I only control my posts and/or my blog. Since I’ve been there, i objected to the Coulter piece that myiq2xu put up, other than that I haven’t seen anything that’s bothered me.  It came down immediately.  I zap people that dis Michelle Obama and other woman and I’ve blogged that I think that both her and Cindy McCain were off limits for hpersonal comments.  I’m not heavy handed on the eject button except I believe in RD’s commitment to a place where people can feel safe and i do eject flames. i keep wondering why you want to put every one in the same bucket?  if you have a problem with one or two people, I can understand that.  what I can’t understand is why pick on e1?  because it’s fun?  because you can do it?  because you think you can judge hypocrisy better than anyone else?

Oh, good christ, I was going to come in and ask people to be nice to you, but, after I read that, fuck it.

mighty white of you

Was Ron Asheton in the Royal Navy?

If not, who the hell cares, we want some goddamned royalty ovah heah!

I HATE it when people like dakinikat come over here and spew their vile filth.

Doesn’t anyone on that blog have a job?

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 01/07/09 at 09:13 PM

yes, I do, thank you for asking

I HATE it when people like dakinikat come over here and spew their vile filth.

while you’re at it ... please quote the vile filth. i think i missed that part

Dakinikat—I thought WE were the ones who didn’t get satire.

Geez.

Aww shit Dakin, you’re no goddamned fun.

I’m out, y’uns be good, enjoy the Reubens and don’t let those PUMAs sneak up and bite yer ass.

I’ll leave you all with this…

gelieve te gaan naar hel

пожалуйста идите к аду

     
请见鬼

zur Hölle bitte gehen

myiq2xu, on October 12th, 2008 at 1:47 am Said:

Here’s an old Hillary Clinton/KFC joke:
KFC is running the “Hillary Clinton special” It’s two small breasts, a pair of flabby thighs, and a bunch of left wings..”

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/saturd ay-night-open-thread/

Missed that, I guess?

Nah. You miss the point. Perhaps deliberately, I don’t know you well enough to be able to tell.

The point is that myiq2xu is a featured blogger at The Confluence, not just any old poster. That inevitably reflects on the rest of The Confluence’s output because he is not just tolerated, but condoned.

Aside from the encounters many of us have had with him when he has trolled many a blog, he’s a featured Confluence blogger who is very, very fond of pointing the finger about his perceptions of sexism and misogyny and lecturing others about it when it suits him politically:

... That’s because the Obama rules don’t apply to Obama, they apply to everyone else.  Obama is free to make accusations of racism without any proof, even preemptively.  He has already stated that the GOP will run a racist campaign against him.  In fact, pointing out the racist nature of something he or his wife says is racist too.

And of course, he gets a complete pass on sexism and misogyny, because pointing it out is . . . well, you know.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/who-ki dnapped-digby/

That last paragraph sound familiar?

And if you can’t see how that makes him a fit subject for calumny and ridicule and not a little anger, then I don’t think anyone here can help you see it.

Dakinikat—I thought WE were the ones who didn’t get satire.

Geez.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 01/07/09 at 09:22 PM

Hold on, let me go google the difference between satire and irony and snark ... i think i’m missing something

Sweet Peatfire, I’m used to PUMAs seeing sexism in everything from hot pocket boxes to piano keys, but to extract anti-IRISH remarks out of the very air! I’m impressed. Let’s try speaking in a loud brogue to you.

SURE AND BEGORRAH IT’S A FOINE NOIT FER US WEE LITTLE O’BOT LADS TA RAVISH A BIT O’CARDBOARD! JAYSUS AND MARY, WOMAN, WHERE’S ME PINT O’DELUSIONS AND DREAMS?

The point is that myiq2xu is a featured blogger at The Confluence, not just any old poster. That inevitably reflects on the rest of The Confluence’s output because he is not just tolerated, but condoned.

So, does that mean if you got a job offer from the New York Times or the Washington Post, you’d turn it down because they carry Pat Buchanan’s columns?  Do you hold Paul Krugman responsible for William Kristol’s op-ed pieces? I’m sorry, but I think I’ve missed the leap of logic here.

Dakinikat—C’mon. I was doing my best BostonBoomer impression.

Perhaps not satire, but damn fine acting.

Should we all just be screaming at Dak as she’s sequestered down in Spammy?  That would be so much more ...  democratic.

Dak, seriously, from one human being to another ... myiq .. really? You guys know that’s a really bad idea, right?

Mrs. Polly:

Whack fol the die do, dance to your partner
Welt the floor, your trotters shake;
Wasn’t it the truth I told you
Lots of fun at The Confluence’s wake!

SURE AND BEGORRAH IT’S A FOINE NOIT FER US WEE LITTLE O’BOT LADS TA RAVISH A BIT O’CARDBOARD! JAYSUS AND MARY, WOMAN, WHERE’S ME PINT O’DELUSIONS AND DREAMS?

Comment by Mrs. Polly on 01/07/09 at 09:29 PM


very nice, i can hear my grandmother singing Tooraluralura to me now

so, let’s just say I go take a piece of rope and put a noose around a tree like those short yellow bus boys did in Jena, LA ... just a tree, and just piece of dumb rope yup?  Nothing to see here, move on ... why would people take that so seriously?

or say I just happened to paint a swastika on a synagogue, just a symbol right?  nothing real, no huge Nazi armies around, hitler’s baked goods right?  nothing to see here, move on ... why would people take that so seriouslY/

Dak, seriously, from one human being to another ... myiq .. really? You guys know that’s a really bad idea, right?

Comment by Kevin K. on 01/07/09 at 09:35 PM

Does he post on my blog?

Kevin, really, every one has issues. I have input at the Confluence but it’s *not*my*blog*. I think RD sees something redeemable in myiq2xu. Frankly, when I have a problem with something he does, I say it but I don’t control him.  The only thing I control is my blog and my posts. I’m not here to defend him or judge him either way.  You guys trolled my thread on health care so now you have my attention.

You have a job at The Confluence?

Let’s backtrack, since you appear confused.

This exchange began with this comment from me:

Dakinikat—Tell myiq2xu to cut and paste this while he’s reporting posts here back to base:

Since myiq2xu was busily cutting and pasting posts from here, I felt some real meat might be in order. Youy and he ducked that, but I don’t think that’s a surprise.

You’re not writing or participating in a daily newspaper, you’re part of a blog that supposedly has high shared ideals that it proclaims to any that will listen.

If you can’t see how the participation of myiq2xu on The Confluence and the hypocrisy that represents - when The Confluence wants to make gigantic fusses over stories like the Favreau affair for instance, but hands myiq2xu a free pass, or even worse, myiq2xu’s little screed taking a feminist apart in his “Misogynist Feminist post - is dissonant, then as I said before, I don’t think anyone here can explain it to you.

And if you’re not happy about being lumped in with myiq2xu, tough. You’ve done enough generalizing about all Rumproasters and Wonketteers in the last couple of days, so forgive me if I’m unimpressed by yet another example of your double standards. We know you by the company you keep.

And BTW, I don’t think litlebrit was “trolling” your thread, she was just uncertain (rightly so, as it turned out) what the reception would be. We had a pretty wide-ranging discussion on health care here a few weeks ago that was to feed into some work marindenver’s been doing. Litlebrit feels strongly about those issues. She was genuinely trying to share, as far as I can see. You guys slapped her down for no good reason.

She was genuinely trying to share, as far as I can see. You guys slapped her down for no good reason.

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 09:47 PM

I slapped her down when she came back her and bragged out pulling the wool over our eyes. Until then, I welcomed her and her input.  After that, I questioned her motives and her comments. You suggest that is unfair? while you’re up there on your cloud of moral superiority will you please look up the definition of hypocrisy?

Dakinikat—“...since I’m of irish descent…”  I have no idea where that came from, but since I’m also “of Irish descent, be a dear Roastette now and fetch me a whisky and a pint, me lass.

That’s weird.  I thought dakinkat was the PUMA that went to school and stuff.  When she says things like:

So, does that mean if you got a job offer from the New York Times or the Washington Post, you’d turn it down because they carry Pat Buchanan’s columns?  Do you hold Paul Krugman responsible for William Kristol’s op-ed pieces?

I want to point out that in many years of dissecting fallacious logic, that’s close to one of the dumbest.

Yes, dakinkat, the confluence is just like the Washington Post and the NYT.  It’s won just as many Pulitzer prizes, and my!q is just like having James Risen on your staff.  Btw, Pulitzers?  They’re just like winning a weblog award.

How’s that working out for you guys, anyway?

Also, the staff of the Washington Post and NYT consists entirely of bitter dead-enders.  Okay, that part may be true.

Dakinikat—“...since I’m of irish descent…” I have no idea where that came from, but since I’m also “of Irish descent, be a dear Roastette now and fetch me a whisky and a pint, me lass.

Comment by sean on 01/07/09 at 09:51 PM

sure thing, ma dearie or is that ya betcha?

That last paragraph sound familiar?

And if you can’t see how that makes him a fit subject for calumny and ridicule and not a little anger, then I don’t think anyone here can help you see it.


before my time

So what you are all essentially saying is that this blog is a front for the PUMA cause. I get it now. When’s the next meeting? I’ll bring cheesecake and Indian tears from the long and lonely trail. Someone said earlier that they would vote for TM over Wonkette er whatever. I say lets get these boring old hags at Confluence out of obscurity and expose this country for what we really are (raises hand), a dying portrait of an old hack…. like a lifetime of Vonnegut’s Timequake or something (what a horrible book that was). This is the same goddamn place that elected Nixon.
I like this little corner of the interwebs.

I slapped her down when she came back her and bragged out pulling the wool over our eyes.

Are we looking at the same thread? Granted, since the mods at the Confluence delete and alter posts at will, it’s hard to say what anyone there has really posted, but I saw no bragging on her part - I think you’re projecting unless you deleted something.

Her second contribution was:

Litlebritdifrnt, on January 7th, 2009 at 7:52 pm Said:

Thank you for the welcome. However, I believe that Obama DOES support UHC. I could be wrong but my reading of his policy positions gives me the impression that UHC is one of his main priorities regardless of the cost. I am firmly of the belief that any civilized country on this planet has a responsibility to to take care of its sick. In the US however the “sick” have become a profit making proposition, the sicker you are the more money you make, I do not trust doctors in this country simply because if I am not sick you do not make money. I would trust my English family doctor with my life. US doctors not so much.

Then myiq2xu shit-stirred by quoting her post here about it:

I just posted something at RD’s site which would (one would assume) would be totally in line with their agenda. It was a post lauding Universal Health Care and Hillary’s support of it. (I am British remember I am a huge fan of the NHS) I am curious as to whether it survives the troll filter and gets through. We shall see.

Comment by Litlebritdifrnt on 01/07/09 at 07:42 PM

What she said was straight down the line what she said during the consultation thread. The fact she disagreed with you about Obama’s attitude to UHC is what seemed to trigger the hostility.

So yes, I’d say that’s unfair, and I’ll keep floating on my cloud of moral superiority on that.

I’d also say it’s shortsighted not to have that debate with her if you want to campaign effectively for UHC rather than just use it as a talking point - you’d better be clear what the new administration is looking at if you’re going to critique it.

Dakinikat -
SURE AND BEGORRAH IT’S A FOINE NOIT FER US WEE LITTLE O’BOT LADS TA RAVISH A BIT O’CARDBOARD! JAYSUS AND MARY, WOMAN, WHERE’S ME PINT O’DELUSIONS AND DREAMS?

Comment by Mrs. Polly on 01/07/09 at 09:29 PM

very nice, i can hear my grandmother singing Tooraluralura to me now

so, let’s just say I go take a piece of rope and put a noose around a tree like those short yellow bus boys did in Jena, LA ... just a tree, and just piece of dumb rope yup?  Nothing to see here, move on ... why would people take that so seriously?

or say I just happened to paint a swastika on a synagogue, just a symbol right?  nothing real, no huge Nazi armies around, hitler’s baked goods right?  nothing to see here, move on ... why would people take that so seriouslY/

So are you saying someone here metaphorically offered you a potato with a bug in it to represent the famine? I guess you couldn’t be a PUMA without seeing insults and discrimination in every corner of your little life.

Good luck getting through the day with that attitude.

so, let’s just say I go take a piece of rope and put a noose around a tree like those short yellow bus boys did in Jena, LA ... just a tree, and just piece of dumb rope yup?  Nothing to see here, move on ... why would people take that so seriously?

or say I just happened to paint a swastika on a synagogue, just a symbol right?  nothing real, no huge Nazi armies around, hitler’s baked goods right?  nothing to see here, move on ... why would people take that so serious

Or say I posted on a blog where a picture of a black man in a minstrel’s outfit appeared in the corner, the propriator posted gems like(RD’s description of Obama in the 1st debate:He punctuates his words with head bobs in the style of a preacher, ala MLK or Jesse Jackson. and where dissent is censored but posters like angienc can write:

angienc2, on January 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm Said:
Regency — the msm has been sucking on Obama’s manflute for so long they can’t quite him.
I guess the saying that “once you go black” is true.
btw: is that r@cist? ’cause my instinct says it is, but now I don’t know what the eff is and isn’t r@cist anymore. seriously.
*****************************************
Regency, on January 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm Said:
What the fuck is this arbitrarily assigning votes to people thing! What is this Soviet Russia. In Russia, vote casts you.
Angie: It’s not r@cist to me. Not accurate. More accurate. “Once you go black, you regret it immensely.”

and other blogs, including strongly anti-Obama pro-Hillary blogs like anglachel, say, essentially, “blechhh” and back away, to go home and take a shower?

You are participating in a truly ugly and unconstructive group hate, thinly veiled in sham feminism that mortifies women and clouds feminist issues. Your bathetic invocation of the Jena 6 in reference to the murky waters of Effluents, or whatever-it-is, is simply offensive and typically melodramatic. Or, to put it so that you might understand it, from one Irish-American to another,
JAYSUS, MARY AND PATRICK,IT’S SIDING WITH THE GALLOPING IDJITS ARE YE NOW?

Comment by shortsshortsshorts on 01/07/09 at 09:58 PM


godbless you mrs. rosewater

@Dakinikat

Excellent! Now if you people would stop promoting the enigma-hero-talent of myiq2xu.
I suppose I should go about the “registration” process here.

Or say I posted on a blog where a picture of a black man in a minstrel’s outfit appeared in the corner, the propriator posted gems like(RD’s description of Obama in the 1st debate:He punctuates his words with head bobs in the style of a preacher, ala MLK or Jesse Jackson. and where dissent is censored but posters like angienc can write:

I believe that’s the suit of a snake oil salesman not a minstrel. But that remark does say a lot about the remarks floating around your head. 

and why do you hold me responsible for what other people say?  quote me. i don’t agree with every one on everything and if you go hit my latest post they don’t agree with me.  i get hammered every time i post on a fossil fuels tax over there but then, that’s not a romantic enough demonstration of something pedantic that you can blow out of proportion.  i try not to say outrageous things.  i make my case.  i don’t judge the people over there. i wasn’t an obama supporter and i wasn’t slobbering all over hillary a year ago or even yesterday. there are a lot of very worthwhile people on that blog and they don’t deserve to be heckled continually. I don’t deserve to beheckled and i dont’ understand your obsession with myiq2xu who obviously has issues and i don’t pick fights with kids that ride yellow busses simply because i can ... i’m not sure what the deal is other than it’s another form of entertainment which is why i’m over here trying to get it

Faith and begorrah!  I canna get a laugh from tha humorless fanny.  Another pint!

@Dakinikat

Excellent! Now if you people would stop promoting the enigma-hero-talent of myiq2xu.
I suppose I should go about the “registration” process here.

Comment by shortsshortsshorts on 01/07/09 at 10:09 PM

on so many levels this is so interesting, but i think the basic message here is to stop obsessing with myiq2xu ... which I completely agree with

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 10:01 PM

go back and look at my comments. the minute the conversation over here was pasted there i completely disengaged.  or are you holding me accountable for other people’s posts again? did you even read my thread?

i’m not sure what the deal is other than it’s another form of entertainment which is why i’m over here trying to get it

Heckling PUMA posters and holding them up to ridicule is a way of diminishing the movement, stealing its power and undermining its effectiveness. Exposing the intrinsic silliness of a thing is a time-honored technique of ideological warfare.

I don’t know why everybody thinks we’re just a bunch of bored juveniles on a lark. Personally, I’m here to stop you.

’cause my instinct says it is, but now I don’t know what the eff is and isn’t r@cist anymore. seriously.

I want to take that into consideration. It is hilarious in and of itself. You have some fucktard who can no longer decipher the difference between racist and not racist? I mean really? REALLY? It seems fairly simple. For the PUMA folk it would be “do not burn crosses against the uppity black man” or “stop telling your children that “just cause’ he’s a black man, don’t mean dickens fer his creedentials.” It’s a start. Maybe not. Maybe “stop keeping the black man in the basement” would be a better start. I leave it to your discretion.

Heckling PUMA posters and holding them up to ridicule is a way of diminishing the movement, stealing its power and undermining its effectiveness. Exposing the intrinsic silliness of a thing is a time-honored technique of ideological warfare.

I don’t know why everybody thinks we’re just a bunch of bored juveniles on a lark. Personally, I’m here to stop you.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 01/07/09 at 10:22 PM

interesting. i guess if you think it’s a movement and you’re trying to stop it ...hmmm, i must’ve missed that on Fox News, and wow they are SO fair and balanced ...i mean, really bill reilly hasn’t said anything about it, are you sure?

I’m fully aware of the thread - note - as it existed when I accessed it.

When you adopt 1984-style censorship and rewriting of posts (yes I mean you - plural - the Confluence mods), then blog reality becomes malleable.

I’m tired of your shrugging off any joint responsibility for what’s posted at The Confluence, by yourself or others. You are a featured blogger there. You are part of its Gestalt. You support it. You promote it, and all that goes with it.

If you don’t like that assumption - which I think you’ll find is widespread and not unreasonable - maybe get Riverdaughter to rewrite your blurb to include a disclaimer. Or maybe set up your own blog if you really don’t like that shared responsibility. Otherwise, it smells of cop-out.

oh, wait, i shouldn’t have posted that last one, I forgot to check with RD, PumaPac and the Puma mascot, MYIQ2xu.

I’m fully aware of the thread - note - as it existed when I accessed it.

When you adopt 1984-style censorship and rewriting of posts (yes I mean you - plural - the Confluence mods), then blog reality becomes malleable.


I don’t have mod power. I guess I’m not high enough up the PUMA food chain to have learned the secret handshake yet.

interesting. i guess if you think it’s a movement and you’re trying to stop it ...hmmm, i must’ve missed that on Fox News, and wow they are SO fair and balanced ...i mean, really bill reilly hasn’t said anything about it, are you sure?

Hey does anyone know what a “non sequitur” is?  I think I’ll go Google that.  Dakinikat, want to help me out?  Type “non sequitur” into the Google, and let me know what it says.

And when you’re done, go ahead and grab me a beer.

Thanks sweetie!

And when you’re done, go ahead and grab me a beer.

Thanks sweetie!

Please explain yourself rationally. I am new to this cold, lonely place. Perhaps we can have PUMA commodore?

Dakinikat—Granted, no one outside of PUMA acknowledges that it’s a “movement.”

I just couldn’t think of the word for “inept network of grievance-mongers.”

Hey does anyone know what a “non sequitur” is?  I think I’ll go Google that.  Dakinikat, want to help me out?  Type “non sequitur” into the Google, and let me know what it says.

And when you’re done, go ahead and grab me a beer.

Thanks sweetie!

Comment by GhostOfPhillyPUMA on 01/07/09 at 10:30 PM

Those without humor are condemned to repeat it

So what’s the big deal then?  Pulling wings off of mouth (sic) is just THAT intriguing to you

?

wow, was that freudian or what ... bad kat, very bad kat

Now how would the entertaining costume RD has that head-bobbin’ Obama wearing put me in mind of a minstrel, instead of obviously a snake-oil salesman?

And how about the nightly rantings of some favorite conflused daughters such as Angie, that meet with the censor’s approval? While litlebrit’s civil and informative comment doesn’t?

RD has been in the business of making a safe space for self-deception,fear-mongering, and hatred. You’ve made various protestations distancing yourself from her blog: you’ve no control over her policy, it’s not what you do on YOUR blog, you’ve your doubts about myqwho… what are you DOING there? Are you the Colin Powell of the Confluence?

It’s hard to see how you can post a serious article with a gaping hole of illogic at the center which insists that whatever move is made by Barack Obama, it is automatically wrong. I don’t support Obama’s every move, I expect, and have not been disappointed in this regard, that he’ll make some moves I like, and some that will really get up my nose. But he isn’t the Antichrist. Nobody would have the energy to be as evil in every aspect as the Confluence paints him.

If you are interested in affecting healthcare policy, if you wish to address a serious audience, you might want to consider extracting yourself from the muddy waters of the Confluence. They’ll only muddy up your message. Or, shorter, JAYSUS BLOODY AITCH CHROIST, DARLIN, IS THERE NOTHIN BETTER YE COULD BE WASTIN YERSELF ON?

Please explain yourself rationally. I am new to this cold, lonely place. Perhaps we can have PUMA commodore?

Comment by shortsshortsshorts on 01/07/09 at 10:34 PM

hi sweetie, i’m new here too. just to let you know i’m a front pager at The Confluence and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the enemy?  so far, it appears, that i hang out with the wrong crowd.  seems like that’s what my mom told me when i was like um, 16 ... and i really thought that was kewl back then. as far as i can tell, myiq2xu is the Sal Mineo character

Or maybe set up your own blog if you really don’t like that shared responsibility. Otherwise, it smells of cop-out.

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 10:27 PM

well, i have my own blog and as far as I know, no one fucked with that thread ... but again, the confluence exists to give folks a refuge from flames per riverdaughter

Actually, myqwho is more Leo Gorsey.

Dakinikat—Just finished reading this thread and I have have some advice for you.  You have been hanging out in bad company.  If you want a serious blog that talks about real issues you need to divest yourself of the PUMAs as they are a national laughingstock. 

It’s not just miq2xu or jennifer4hillary, it’s all of them including Ms. Murphy who has shared her penchant for extreme exaggeration and outright lying (There are 18 million of us. We have retired Hillary’s debt.) on national television.  Stupid and Crazy are vying for which is more powerful in that group.

Comment by shortsshortsshorts on 01/07/09 at 10:26 PM

just in case you don’t know my background, I live in the ninth ward of new orleans ... i’m in the minority where i live

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 09:47 PM

This is the USA we don’t use the royal ‘we’ here

i’m a front pager at The Confluence and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the enemy?

i’m a front pager at Redstate and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the Republican?

i’m a front pager at Stormfront and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the racist?

i’m a front pager at Squidsex (yes, it exists) and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the pervert?

Keep thinking, Dak; it will come to you.

just in case you don’t know my background, I live in the ninth ward of new orleans ... i’m in the minority where i live

Good thing you have a gun and a dog, missy.  Them darkies’d get ya otherhow.

If you are interested in affecting healthcare policy, if you wish to address a serious audience, you might want to consider extracting yourself from the muddy waters of the Confluence. They’ll only muddy up your message. Or, shorter, JAYSUS BLOODY AITCH CHROIST, DARLIN, IS THERE NOTHIN BETTER YE COULD BE WASTIN YERSELF ON?

Comment by Mrs. Polly on 01/07/09 at 10:43 PM

I’ll let you know when the NY Times calls me.

Change of topic: did anyone listen to the PUMA radio menopause therapy session tonight?

There is a very hilarious remix to be made there.  I’d do it if I had the skillz and the time.

Sheri Tag shouting “Shut this up let me put my dick in your mouth!”

It’s ripe for remixing with the icepick radio hour…

Oh dear godz, “Hambeast” and “Squidsex” in one thread. I picked the wrong goddamn day to quit sniffing glue.

i’m a front pager at Redstate and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the Republican?

i’m a front pager at Stormfront and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the racist?

i’m a front pager at Squidsex (yes, it exists) and i’m just trying to figure out why the fuck i’m the pervert?

Thank you. I was grasping for a succinct way to put it. That’ll do nicely.

On and Dakinikat, though I suspect you’re just here to troll now on the strength of this nonsense post:

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 09:47 PM

This is the USA we don’t use the royal ‘we’ here

This blog recently hosted a Healthcare Community Discussion described and conducted here:

http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/rum proast_to_host_healthcare_community_discussion_on_december_1 6/

http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/rum proast_health_care_community_discussion_now_open/

Who knows what the outcome will be. But I’d guess it’s more likely to be productive than engaging negatively with a handful of deadenders in a backwater blog that has no credibility.

CHEATING ALERT ON UPPITY WOMAN:

catsrclean, on January 7th, 2009 at 6:37 PM Said:

BTW - if anyone wants to be less than honorable - vote - delete your cookies - vote again - repeat over and over till you are sick of it. I bet they have figured that one out :-)

GRAB SCREENSHOTS! ALERT THE PROPRIETORS OF THE WEBLOG AWARDS! PROWL!

And how about the nightly rantings of some favorite conflused daughters such as Angie, that meet with the censor’s approval? While litlebrit’s civil and informative comment doesn’t?


I didn’t put any of her comments in spam or moderation.

Hey! I’m not a Deadender, I’m a Bitterender!

The nerve.


“Backwater Blog”, though, that’s good. I like it.

So, I’m reading through this thread, and I see how dakinikat doesn’t have the power to actually do anything at the confluence.  Even things like rewriting people’s comments, or toning down the bitterness and hatred at the site is outside of her control.

I have to wonder: isn’t it odd that a front-pager at the confluence is so without influence to the tone and content of the site?  I mean, is the owner of the site some kind of dictator?

GRAB SCREENSHOTS! ALERT THE PROPRIETORS OF THE WEBLOG AWARDS! PROWL!

OMG!!

This is just like the Democratic primary, when Obama cheated by resetting Hillary’s alarm clock so she would sleep in and forget to contest the caucuses!

Thank god for screenshots!

Who knows what the outcome will be. But I’d guess it’s more likely to be productive than engaging negatively with a handful of deadenders in a backwater blog that has no credibility.

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 11:02 PM

per technorati:

The confluence
Authority: 369
Favorite it
Rank: 8,025

Authority: 151
Favorite it
Rank: 26,958

the bottom ranking was rumproast, btw

Which proves what?

At 47 years old, I am a “boy toy.”
Since they are post-menopausal, that means they don’t swell, they don’t tell, and they’re grateful as hell.

MyIqEatsPaste translation: Nothing female has touched Princess Tiny Meat in the last fifteen years.

On that Puma radio repeat I’m listening to, Sheri Tag just said “Who wouldn’t want that magical dick?”

Somebody, please, I beg you, remix this!

They’ve now spent about 45 minutes saying men are obsessed with penises and that they should just get over them.  They seem a little bit…obsessed.

Technorati Authority is the number of blogs linking to a website in the last six months. The higher the number, the more Technorati Authority the blog has.

The number of links = authority. The Confluence came up with a whole load of smears that were parroted by other PUMA and right-wing sites. Which says nothing at all about credibility.

How much credibility as a venue for a Community Discussion on anything do you think The Confluence would have?

Which proves what?

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/07/09 at 11:11 PM

just contributing evidence in the debate about backwater blogs

and why do you hold me responsible for what other people say?  quote me. i don’t agree with every one on everything and if you go hit my latest post they don’t agree with me.  i get hammered every time i post on a fossil fuels tax over there but then, that’s not a romantic enough demonstration of something pedantic that you can blow out of proportion.  i try not to say outrageous things.  i make my case.  i don’t judge the people over there. i wasn’t an obama supporter and i wasn’t slobbering all over hillary a year ago or even yesterday. there are a lot of very worthwhile people on that blog and they don’t deserve to be heckled continually. I don’t deserve to beheckled and i dont’ understand your obsession with myiq2xu who obviously has issues and i don’t pick fights with kids that ride yellow busses simply because i can ... i’m not sure what the deal is other than it’s another form of entertainment which is why i’m over here trying to get it

I think myiq must be an obvious asshole even to a lot of the simple fools reading the Confluence and I agree, you’re different.  You’re playing the same tune in many respects but while myiq is blaring away on a trumpet you’re instrument is the dog whistle.  Here’s you kicking it wingnut style on the mortgage meltdown.  Nice job covering all the wingnut talking points about there.  You really captured the “it’s all the fault of those Democrats for making the banks lend to minorities” shitegeist.  Except, oh snap, you forgot to work Acorn into the post. No worries though, you rectified that in comments

dakinikat, on September 27th, 2008 at 1:35 pm Said:

thank you … I’m just hoping some of this stuff gets out to Lou Dobbs or some one like that … I know some of the ACORN connections and there’s also Urban League connections down here too are being posted on NQ

What was especially awesome was how, towards the end of your follow up post, you mentioned that you have black friends so that so makes you not a racist.  Totally.

Comment by Lawnguylander on 01/07/09 at 11:16 PM

okay, i just checked the spam filter, I apoligize, some one just scrubbed lilbrit out of my thread while i’ve been over here

[sockpuppet disclaimer: I’ve been using the handles GhostOfPhillyPUMA and thatguysiqlike1/3adoorknob, but I’m settling on RobLanding. That is all.]

just in case you don’t know my background, I live in the ninth ward of new orleans ... i’m in the minority where i live
Comment by Dakinikat on 01/07/09 at 10:49 PM

LOL!

and wow, such balls to whomever used me as a sock puppet!

Aw, I quite liked thatguysiqlike1/3adoorknob.

It was a PITA to type, though.

Comment by Lawnguylander on 01/07/09 at 11:16 PM

oh c’mon, that’s about as original as the dog ate my homework. you can do better than that, or maybe not

Lawnguylander: I thought it was very white of her to point that out.

yetanotherfreakingbrit, I liked it too, but he’s grown a bit stale for me.  I wanted a handle less tied down.

Nice Deb is surging. Don’t forget to crush her.

oh c’mon, that’s about as original as the dog ate my homework. you can do better than that, or maybe not

How about addressing the issues he raised? They seem pretty pertinent to tonight’s discussion.

Oh, I forgot - it appears you don’t do accountability.

Dakinikat, we know YOU didn’t do it. That isn’t the issue, which I expect you know and are avoiding because you don’t like the inevitable conclusion: To be a featured poster on a blog like the Confluence, to allow hateful, paranoid, and yes, sometimes racist comments fly all around you without challenging them, is to condone them.

Period.

We’re talking about something more serious than just plain snarkiness as per blogger wars. We’re talking about fear mongering—after the election, PUMAs were sounding notes of such deep despair that you’d have thought Panzer tanks were entering Washington—and creating a place for hate. I don’t deny the sense of community and support that many women, including you, find there. But if it is a community gathered in wilful ignorance, fending off information it doesn’t want to hear, making accusations without evidence, then perhaps you should consider changing neighborhoods.

You really captured the “it’s all the fault of those Democrats for making the banks lend to minorities” shitegeist.  Except, oh snap, you forgot to work Acorn into the post. No worries though, you rectified that in comments.

 

I have lived BLOCKS from ACORN for years. They call them rent-a-protestor down here. Most of the post katrina acorn folks come from berkely, are new black panthers and are actually working against the wishes of folks in public housing down here.  You can just sit away in the suburbs, go to starbux, and be as ignornant as you wanna be.  And check the dates on my post, it came out weeks before the right wing memes. I don’t blame the 1977 housing act, I blame the lack of oversight and the overzealous lending practices of GNMA and FNMA in the late 1990s. But thanks for playing.

You can just sit away in the suburbs, go to starbux, and be as ignornant as you wanna be.

Getting tired, Sky Dancer? You’re reverting to type.

And check the dates on my post, it came out weeks before the right wing memes.

Your post: September 30th

This post that took 5 seconds of googling “Rush Limbaugh CRA”: September 30th.

Weeks apart?  I report, you decide!

Comment by RobLanding on 01/07/09 at 11:38 PM

But if it is a community gathered in wilful ignorance, fending off information it doesn’t want to hear, making accusations without evidence, then perhaps you should consider changing neighborhoods.

Comment by Mrs. Polly on 01/07/09 at 11:27 PM

In any group, there is a broad spectrum. There are things in the PUMA blogosphere the make me cringe.  There are also things in the DNC that make me cringe, things in the GOP that make me cringe, and things over here, that are making me cringe.  Judging groups people by outliers,imho, is not exactly a useful exercise. 

A year ago, I watched the debates with absolutely no preconceived commitments or notions.  Then I watched the primary/caucus process unfold.  I watched some states get punished for pushing election dates ahead and some states get a pass.  I watched caucuses get gamed.  I did my homework like I always do. AND having been a candidate myself in an election, I come with a viewpoint that is not that of an ordinary voter, it’s an extremely brutal and awful process and once you’ve experienced being a candidate, you can NEVER go back.

What I found was that cheaters prosper and this election proved that in spades. At some point in your life you have to think about what exactly is important to you, well ONE MAN ONE VOTE is one of those things.  I’m not a slobbering hillaryphile.  I’m an ass for the right thing. It’s why I hated jerry farwell and pat robertson and it’s why I see not a lot of space between Obama and Dubya.  A lot of the people at the Confluence have issues.  That’s the nature of a population and the damned bell curve.  But, with me, it’s about the process.  And the process this year was SHITTY and PLAYED.  maybe it’s because I’m a buddhist but I’m a big fan of karma, and NOTHING GOOD EVER comes from a bad seed.  So, anyway, I can publish in journals add it to my vitae if i want to look for creds, but slugging it out here in the blog for what is right is not exactly something you can do IRL.

so shoot me and heckle me.

Heidi Li 01.07.09 at 11:37 pm

I apologize for the infrequency of my visits over here of late. I’m a bit swamped, but I had to take the time to express tremendous appreciation for the PUMAs in fighting off the idjits who have been assaulting The Confluence.

I did manage to do one of the Prowls today, and I am reading over here daily. I think, by the way, that some of the insane conduct over the weblog awards is due to the fact that a) the kool-aid drinkers are realizing that P.E. Obama is not who they duped themselves or allowed themselves to be duped into believing he is and so b) they are lashing out at PUMAs and their blogs because c) that is easier than facing up to their own poor judgment.

Heidi Li Feldman. Rationalizing Away Failure for More Than 1/200th of a Century.

Your post: September 30th

This post that took 5 seconds of googling “Rush Limbaugh CRA”: September 30th.

Weeks apart?  I report, you decide!

I don’t do Rush Limbaugh, but I do have a feeling his folks rip some research off some sites i’ve been on ... a few times gretawire and fox and cnn grabbed stuff from my website.  I can actually give you 2 examples where they grabbed stuff that I pulled from obscure Pumas.  The Hillary fundraiser tape in SF with her denying she didn’t want a roll call vote at the convention being one that basically came from me.  Totally astounded me, frankly.  Plus I know a bunch of journalists from Hurricane Katrina at CNN and places, they keep in touch with me via my blog.

So, just so we’re clear, you’re the genius that introduced to the world that all those uppity black people skipping their mortgage payments caused the collapse of the global financial markets?

And you think this is something to take credit for?

Dakinikat-
What I found was that cheaters prosper and this election proved that in spades. At some point in your life you have to think about what exactly is important to you, well ONE MAN ONE VOTE is one of those things.  I’m not a slobbering hillaryphile.  I’m an ass for the right thing. It’s why I hated jerry farwell and pat robertson and it’s why I see not a lot of space between Obama and Dubya.  A lot of the people at the Confluence have issues.  That’s the nature of a population and the damned bell curve.  But, with me, it’s about the process.  And the process this year was SHITTY and PLAYED.  maybe it’s because I’m a buddhist but I’m a big fan of karma, and NOTHING GOOD EVER comes from a bad seed.  So, anyway, I can publish in journals add it to my vitae if i want to look for creds, but slugging it out here in the blog for what is right is not exactly something you can do IRL.

Nonsense. Hillary attempted to cheat by reneging on an agreement before the primaries began that Florida and Michigan would not count.

If Hillary won the Democratic Party’s nomination by seating all of the Florida delegates, all of Clinton’s Michigan delegates with none for Obama, and a disproportionate amount of Superdelegates then it would have been the greatest travesty of all time.

Obama won fair and square and if you cannot see that then you’ve got major problems with reality.

Obama won fair and square and if you cannot see that then you’ve got major problems with reality.

Comment by Matt XIV on 01/08/09 at 12:02 AM

back at you dude, obama had advertisements running in florida,  there was a concerted effort to pull back from michigan by richardson, obama, and johnnie boy to purposelly confuse the results ... they didn’t need to pull their names off and they did per a Des Moines Register article.  I’m not the deluded one on that.  Do some research.

So, just so we’re clear, you’re the genius that introduced to the world that all those uppity black people skipping their mortgage payments caused the collapse of the global financial markets?

And you think this is something to take credit for?

Comment by RobLanding on 01/07/09 at 11:51 PM

That’s not what I said, what I said was that they tossed out underwriting standards. I’ve been fighting redlining for years.  There’s a difference between discrimination in lending and being given a green light to lend to people without documentation that can’t possibly pay back loans.  For some reason, the rethugs took some of the academic research along that line and extrapolated it into the meme you mention.  I was as horrified as anyone. What started as expansion of homeownership turned into a free-for-all. That 1977 act is not responsible for the crisis. What is is the combination of easy credit and all those derivatives that managed to escape any kind of regulation.  I’m well on record on that one.

I’d be willing to concede that Hillary and Bill Clinton were helpless victims in a political competition and outmaneuvered by a bunch of third-tier amateurs, if I actually thought it would advance this conversation.

back at you dude, obama had advertisements running in florida, there was a concerted effort to pull back from michigan by richardson, obama, and johnnie boy to purposelly confuse the results ... they didn’t need to pull their names off and they did per a Des Moines Register article.  I’m not the deluded one on that.  Do some research.

Hillary campaigned in Florida. She also lied to the voters of New Hampshire when she said straight out that Michigan would not count, otherwise she would have lost that primary and her battle would have been dead in the water there and then.

Hillary did not run a clean campaign and she deserved to lose. Again if you think Obama cheated you’re delusional.

Getting tired, Sky Dancer? You’re reverting to type.

Comment by StrangeAppar8us on 01/07/09 at 11:36 PM

Nope, just too much booze, you know us dirty shanty irish. BTW, is sean still here? it’s his turn to get the sandwiches and pints!

Strange, I too am bereft that a woman who couldn’t figure out how to defeat a SuperSekrit Muslim Negroid Uppity Empty Suit is not going to be taking the oath of office in two weeks. I’d feel so much safer in the hands of someone who didn’t understand the caucus process and who hired Mark Penn to do the thinking for her on that score.

Hillary did not run a clean campaign and she deserved to lose. Again if you think Obama cheated you’re delusional.

Comment by Matt XIV on 01/08/09 at 12:14 AM

Wow, can’t argue with self manufactured facts, can I?

Everyone, sorry, I’ve been a little preoccupied dealing with life in general and the downside of Rumproast’s new Weblog Awards fame and glory (read: the new “improved” Taylor Marsh fan base is just as fucking annoying as the old one), but Dak, you’ve gotta at least give us some jazzy New Orleans-style whatevers for letting you spool out your spiel here for faaaaaaar longer than the “opposition” gets a chance to at the-blog-you-have-absolutely-no-control-over.  Correct? That counts for sumptin’, right?

In a somewhat related note, Thers just front-paged us on Eschaton for the Weblog Awards.  Tell the PUMAs to have their freshly-minted wingnut pal Nice Deb turn the lights out when she’s done.

Last round, Dak, so it’s on me.  Normally the lassies do the fetching around here, but just because it’s closing time…

Comment by Kerry Reid on 01/08/09 at 12:16 AM

yeah, yeah, yeah ... he’s the only virgin in the chicago whorehouse and Axelrove is such a moral and upright dude!

take your meds and get back to me… oh, and how’s Rahm working for you?

we’re just going to have to wait awhile and see who get’s to put the smug bumpersticker on the volvo ... meanwhile, I suggest you start looking at the appointments and if the agenda of all that is good prevails

Dakinikat, you aren’t responsible for what other people post on Confluence but if it is completely opposite of what you think and believe then you are responsible for continuing to blog there.  As a featured poster you are associating yourself with the site and its views.  I don’t agree with Kevin or Betty or the others on every single idea they have but in substance we all agree and if I felt their ideas were racist or completely contrary to my deepest beliefs I wouldn’t be here.  You show yourself by the company you keep.  And, yes, the company I keep here is snarky, witty, often ROTFLMAO funny, intelligent and always, always open to dissenting views.  I hope you see the difference between that and Confluence.  And BTW, I can delete, edit or whatever I want to do with comments but, honey, that’s not my style.

well, i came in peace ...

bye and thanks for all the fish

Ciao.  Stop by again.

we’re just going to have to wait awhile and see who get’s to put the smug bumpersticker on the volvo

There you go again. You drink too much and your Inner Classist emerges.

BTW: Had Hillary won the Presidency, everything would be exactly the same as it is now, except for certain details of Healthcare Reform…and the return of Homestyle Arkansas Corruption. My only disappointment Obama so far is that he’s turned into Hillary.

Wow, can’t argue with self manufactured facts, can I?

Not manufactured facts at all my dear PUMA.

Hillary campaigned in Florida. She held 3 “fundraisers”, which were barely disguised campaign events, in the 2 days leading up to the Florida primary vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Democratic_prim ary,_2008

Here’s a recording of her saying on New Hampshire public radio that the Michigan vote “would not count for anything”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHRqi8nsvI&eurl= http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/6/12656/59124/210/49099 5&feature=player_embedded

Obama did not do anything comparable to that in the Primaries. To say he cheated against Clinton is laughable.

Comment by Matt XIV on 01/08/09 at 12:39 AM

yeah, yeah, yeah ... he’s the only virgin in the chicago whorehouse and Axelrove is such a moral and upright dude!

take your meds and get back to me… oh, and how’s Rahm working for you?

we’re just going to have to wait awhile and see who get’s to put the smug bumpersticker on the volvo ... meanwhile, I suggest you start looking at the appointments and if the agenda of all that is good prevails

Wow, having to go ad hominem so soon? Also, I don’t drive, but I guess “Volvo” goes along with “Axelrove” as the limits of your cleverness.

Cuz I totally argued that Obama is simonpure.m (Though OF COURSE the Clintons always were!)

Oh wait, no I didn’t make that argument, as anyone with reading comprehension could notice. My comment was PURELY about the fact that, if Obama was so wholly inadequate and Hillary was so vetted, tough, and awesome, as your BFFs in PumaWorld fervently believe, why wasn’t she smart and tough enough to BEAT HIM? It’s not like she wasn’t willing to get dirty and demagogic in order to win (Michigan and Florida? EXACTLY like what’s happened in Zimbabwe!)

I suspect Rahm will be as good in the Obama administration as he was in Bill Clinton’s. And I’m sure that Hillary will rise to the task of secretary of state now that she doesn’t have to be polishing her hawk credentials by ignoring the NIE and voting for the AUMF.

But then, you’re the fucktard syphilitic racist-enabling POS that can’t see any difference between Obama and Bush.

I suppose I should go about the “registration” process here.

You’re srsly welcome here.  Can’t stop humming “Who likes short shorts?  I like shorts shorts!”  Great handle.

Gack.  I killed the Dak attack. Good night!

Bravo on the Eschaton endorsement. Hats off to Thers.

Does this mean Kevin K. is officially one of “Teh Boiz” now?

see who get’s to put the smug bumpersticker on the volvo

Since I understand the proper use of the apostrophe, I’m guessing it’s me. But I don’t drive, so I’m happy to pass my SmugSticker to any other ‘roaster who wants it.

so shoot me and heckle me.
Comment by Dakinikat on 01/07/09 at 11:43 PM

OK.  Address please?

But then, you’re the fucktard syphilitic racist-enabling POS that can’t see any difference between Obama and Bush.

I’m not sure you’re going to be able to walk back your friendship with Dakinikat after that.

Dammit! Why do I always hurt the ones I love, Strange? WHY!?!?!?!

SuperSekrit Muslim Negroid Uppity Empty Suit

is not to be discussed. Can you imagine if the Commies got their hands on such power? While I agree with Cuban suffrage on an economic scale, I will never allow such SuperSekrit Muslim Negroid Uppity Empty Suit into the ranks, unless he brings hopey change.

SuperSekrit Muslim Negroid Uppity Empty Suit

See, when I typed it, I was humming Dylan’s “Leopard-Skin Pillbox Hat.”

Huh? Am I missing something here?

DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:13 pm

  Uppity and The Confluence are still in the lead.
  Don’t forget to vote.

Kerry—I’m sorry. Harsh words are like karma, which is why cheaters never prosper, nothing good comes from a bad seed…and it’s hard as hell to find a decent cantaloupe at Foodland.

ne

Dammit! Why do I always hurt the ones I love, Strange? WHY!?!?!?!

My daddy issues are better than yours. AND I hurt the ones I love more than you do, so there.

#####—I think she’s counting on Wonkette and Rumproast to be disqualified.

Uppity and The Confluence are still in the lead.
Don’t forget to vote.

SOO great. It’s one moran’s hopes flushed down a can over and over again for the rest of his miserable life. Where the hell do you people find these various gold nuggets?

I have lived BLOCKS from ACORN for years. They call them rent-a-protestor down here. Most of the post katrina acorn folks come from berkely, are new black panthers and are actually working against the wishes of folks in public housing down here.  You can just sit away in the suburbs, go to starbux, and be as ignornant as you wanna be.  And check the dates on my post, it came out weeks before the right wing memes. I don’t blame the 1977 housing act, I blame the lack of oversight and the overzealous lending practices of GNMA and FNMA in the late 1990s. But thanks for playing.

Nice try but we know why you threw that Acorn aside into comments and it makes no difference that you didn’t mention CRA.  And we know what kind of reaction you were going for with that first post.  Let’s look at a key inflammatory excerpt:

It’s really a nice social goal to increase the level of minority ownership in the country and to move the poor into homes of their own, but you can’t force it by giving folks loans they are not prepared to handle.  The House and Senate Democrats, and specifically the Black Caucus, are squarely behind this problem.

There’s a lot more like that.  Calling me a latte sipping elitist isn’t going to change the fact that you knew just what you were doing here even if you know fuck all about the subprime crisis.  If you did you wouldn’t have blamed it on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (did you know for instance that “The loan performance on Fannie’s book of business is substantially better than the overall mortgage market.”) and you most certainly would not have written this:

If you’d like to know more about the loosening of standards,  here’s a really good study to check out:  http://johnrlott.tripod.com/Liebowitz_Housing.pdf

Your post was based on the work of a Cato Institute affiliated, CRA blaming economist, Stanley Liebowitz as channeled by John Lott.  Heckuva job, whitey.

Yes, that John Lott.  (Has it ever occured to you to google your sources?)  Liebowitz was leading the wingnut/libertarian charge with these theories as far back as February, 2008.  You might not have learned about them until September, but please, you did not invent this shit.  The NY Post, WorldNetDaily and other wingnut outlets ate that shit up and so did you but they ate it up first.  When the time was right for you to push it down the gaping maw that is the Confluence commentariat you pushed it.  But get it straight, Fannie and Freddie and minority home ownership didn’t cause this crisis. 

Anyone who wants a little more background can read this.

Comment by Lawnguylander on 01/08/09 at 01:21 AM

For some reason, the rethugs took some of the academic research along that line and extrapolated it into the meme you mention.  I was as horrified as anyone.

For some reason?  And the rethugs pushed it but not you?  You’re as horrified as anyone?  Who do you think you’re kidding?

Dakinikat—Just caught up with the thread again.  I rescind my advice to you re the PUMAs as I now realize it is a good fit for you.

You completely get it wrong what happened with MI and FL and can’t seem to understand what the rules were re states and their primary dates.  You place blame for these problems on Obama (or his campaign) when he had zero political clout as a Washington outsider and was up against the Clintons who practically ruled the party at the time the decisions were made.  And you choose to blame the international financial crisis on some U.S. loans to minorities instead of deregulation, speculation and the blurring of lines between insurance companies, banks, and brokerage houses.  But hey, if your version of events fuels your Obama hatred, who am I to disillusion you?

Jeebus this is as bad as PUMA talk. Perhaps a few Paultards would do you people justice. I WILL FETCH THEM. Currently they have a Scientology enclave just east of the Eden(s) expressway North of Chicago, where angels are killed by fumes of Abbott dust and Baxter failure. Still, happiness starts with dianetics. So there.

Ya well misconfiguration genus get no respect out of the effort you people go to find them, either.

A supporter of über-‘Merkin-patriot nicedeb expresses frustration over the Weblog voting results and wonders whatever happened to that ol’ conservative election-rigging ingenuity:

Can you include a request for help so that your readers know how to set up proxies

Dakinikat’s arguments are airtight and his command of the facts is top-notch.

Team Sarah is run by a scam artist/sex toy website owner who belongs to the KKK.

http://operationpiedpiper.blogspot.com/

Comment by wait what on 01/08/09 at 03:40 AM

the bottom ranking was rumproast, btw

You’re insane.  (I’m not arguing the fact, I just love that line - it’s from a MadTV fauxmmercial.)  Now that that’s done…

Kev & Co.,

I’m taking Mother Ripley to the hospital for an MRI in the morning.  She’s experiencing an odd, violent twitching in her arm, post-stroke. 

I wouldn’t bring this up in public, but I’d just like to make a point, once again, that I’ve posted on WF on occasion.  With prejudice…

Mother Ripley was a medical professional and was her own woman, all her life.  She was my Father’s partner, but she never sat back and asked for directions, in life or love or anything.  She raised two very strong daughters who have done more to help people than most of us could dream of doing.  And she raised me, for what that’s worth.

This is my problem with PUMA.  You shit on everything that my Mother did.  Growing up in Nowheresville, USA during the Depression and somehow making it through college (as a woman) and dedicating her life - her god damned LIFE! - to healing people and raising a good family.

You shit on my sisters, who did nothing but work hard and get through college and raise incredible kids and give and give and god damned fucking GIVE! to help people - women, men, boys, girls, Democrats, Republicans, and probably some of you.

You shit on my Father, who came from Nowheresville, USA and joined the Navy and busted his pasty Norwegian ass in the South Pacific during WWII.  And he came home and found a gal and married her, and respected her and listened to her and did what she asked and made a motherfucking point of making sure that we listened to her.  And words couldn’t describe his pride for his daughters.  (I’m the adopted son, just so we’re clear)

Everything that PUMA stands for… oh, fuck, no one knows what they stand for.  Obama Bad!  Palin Whiskey Oysters!  Free Money! (deadlines, Darragh - tsk tsk)

I don’t even know what else to say to… fuck!

Please pardon me for being off topic here but even though Puma blogs are losing other right wingers blog are still ahead since last time i checked.

Those blogs are The Anchoress for Best Individual blogger, Savage Politics for Best Up And Coming Blog and Jammie Wearing Fool for Best Major Blog.

So please vote for Driftglass, The Stupid Shall Be Punished and The Agonist to counter them respectively.

Thank you.

Team Sarah is run by a scam artist/sex toy website owner who belongs to the KKK.

http://operationpiedpiper.blogspot.com/

This is interesting, although certainly out of the blue.

Comment by sunkawakan on 01/08/09 at 08:28 AM

Ripley, well said. And best of luck to Mother Ripley. She sounds like a helluva woman.

Wow, that looked like fun.

Denial is a powerful psychological defense mechanism, isn’t it?

Does appear that this so-called Bill Collier does post at some neo-confederate sites.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ConfederateStatesofAme rica/messages?o=1

Comment by sunkawakan on 01/08/09 at 09:15 AM

Beautifully said, Ripley. My mom, who died this past April, would have been 73 yesterday, and she and my dad sound a lot like your parents.

Dakinikat’s arguments are airtight and his command of the facts is top-notch.

Yes, Lenny. Yes she does. Can you see the rabbits Lenny? They’re right across the river.

Ripley—Your righteous indignation is right on.  I shall send your mom some good karma and best wishes.

Here’s what the PUMAs don’t get.  If I say Obama has big ears, is that racist?  No, it’s just an observation.  If I say Hillary has a big butt that is not misogyny, just another observation.

Mother Ripley is in my thoughts.  All the best, Rip.

New post with EXTRA SCOOP MOUTH!

Take it upstairs!

BLORT!!!

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