What Steve M. said
From No More Mister Nice Blog:
I’m going to say this with confidence: If we’re against it, most teabaggers are for it, and vice versa. We’re never going to find common ground.
From No More Mister Nice Blog:
I’m going to say this with confidence: If we’re against it, most teabaggers are for it, and vice versa. We’re never going to find common ground.
I don’t think we (sane Democrats) want to find common ground with them. I think we know that the Teabggers are basically insane. What we have to do it find out how to work around them, not with them.
I don’t know how you shut them up and make them go away; we probably can’t do it. We have to show them for what they really are, a fringe group led by lying political hacks. But their followers are never going to change. We just have to make them irrelevant.
The analogy that Teabaggers are the modern version of the Birch Society is an apt one. Unfortunately the current GOP leadership is too interested in scoring short-term political points to isolate them. It’s political cynicism to Nth degree.
donnah, Steve, I believe, is referring to wrong-headed malarkey like this.
“Hollywood populist” is right up there with “jumbo shrimp.”
We have to show them for what they really are, a fringe group led by lying political hacks.
Yep. They’ve shown themselves for what they are—not-too-bright senior citizens ranting about keeping the government out of Medicare, racist fools waving signs depicting the president as a witch doctor, craven bed-wetters who believe every conspiracy theory Glenn Beck spins.
The are and always have been a wholly owned subsidiary of the GOP, so any move to co-opt them or their “message” is pure folly. The best we can hope for is that they step on their own pee-pees elsewhere like they did in NY-23.
This comment from Steve’s place is a good summation:
satch
Thom Hartmann, of all people, has also been pushing that thought: that somehow Progs can find some common ground with teabaggers, especially in the area of creeping corporatism. I respect him immensely, but in this, I think he is dead wrong. Hatred of liberals in general, and Obama in particular, is the driving force of the teabaggers, not anti corporatism. They’re like the scene in “Independence Day”, where the President is talking to the alien, trying to find peace, and the alien is having none of it. Finally, President Bill Paxton asks: “What is it you want us to do?” The alien replies: “DIE.”
Today, 10:15:10 AM
Once again I’m reminded of the scene in the Weather Underground doc where one of the old radical hands (I don’t think it was Ayers, maybe somebody else) said that one of their goals was to “organize radical white working-class youth.” That didn’t work out so good, huh?
Much like Hollywood producers/former producers lecturing the rest of us slobs on populism, attempts to organize “radical white working-class youth” that come from the Trust Fund Set are ludicrous on the face of it. Jeez, haven’t any of these people seen Joe? (I actually just saw it last week—pretty bad film), but the point remains that large swaths of the white working-class aren’t interested in “populism” being sold by “elites.” Christ, READ Thomas Frank, idiots!
I’m totally with donnah, Tom65, Betty Cracker and satch’s comment as posted by Kevin K., on this.
There’s no reasoning with these insane, hatemongers.
They are nothing but C.H.U.D., except less intelligent and the only sane reaction is to push back hard and expose them at every turn for the troglodyte zombie skull-fuckers that they truly are.
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