Why are Conservatives Always the First to Throw American Ideals Under the Bus?

I just heard McCain explaining to Sean Hannity that it was a mistake to grant suspected half-assed Times Square bomber-wannabee Faisal Shahzad his Miranda rights as a US citizen, because Shahzad initially admitted involvement in the unbelievably half-assed non-bombing and because America has really effective, not-technically-torture interrogation methods that could have squeezed out the names of his accomplices and contacts without, you know, permanently crippling his arms or breaking his teeth or any of that VC-type bona fide torture stuff. Apparently, he The Crimson Executioner Crash McMaverick also publicly warned against granting Miranda earlier today, for which The Atlantic has already called “Putz!” on him for being a tyrannical “Of the People, By the People, At My Convenience” dickhead.

Joe Lieberman, predictably, was also caught trying to manufacture a loophole in the Bill of Rights large enough to insert red-hot pincers and a serrated eye-gouger, public opinion permitting:

ThinkProgress has been all over this, so I’m guilty of recycling some fairly well-worn outrage. All I can add is my Blog-Pool For When Sarah Palin Will Twitter Her Call for “Common-Sense” Application of Due Process (Make your prediction in Comments!), and my totally cool pop-culture metaphor for Constitution-Optional Conservativism, which reveals itself in all its cheesy, soft-porn splendor below the fold.

Posted by StrangeAppar8us on 05/04/10 at 04:06 PM • Permalink

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There was a related discussion on wingnut motivations at Steve M & Co.‘s No More Mr. Nice Blog earlier today. My theory was that they’re cowards and hypocrites.

But it turns out mine is the charitable view—NMMNB commenter Cereal:

These people are nihilists.  They have no ideology - they simply lash out at and blame “liberals” in order to gain advantage and wealth.  That’s all they care about, and it’s all they do.

Cereal makes a convincing argument.

Blog-Pool: I say Sarah emits her Miranda Twitter between 9 and 10 tonight.

Strange - I love you dude, I really do, but you are guilty of what has been pissing me off all fucking day.  THERE WAS NO BOMBING!  There have been bobble heads all day saying “the New York City bombing suspect”  Would everyone please refer to the incident as “the attempted New York City bombing” and refer to the guy as the “unsuccessful bomb suspect” if only to save my fucking sanity.  Jees if we Brits got our panties in a wad every time the IRA failed to blow some shit up we would have been in a state of constant meltdown.

Right now, this is pure, unthinking reaction.  They’re against the Left, and want to turn back the clock—ON EVERYTHING!  They don’t need to consider things, damn it!  They know they’re right!

If (when) the Teabaggers get uniforms and start getting violent, they’ll have shifted into full-blown fascist mode.  At that point—get ready for things to get ugly. 

Okay—uglier.

Litlebrit, I feel like we read different posts.  I think “bomber-wannabee” and “unbelievably half-assed non-bombing” say exactly what you said.

@Litlebritdifrnt—Point taken, and corrected in the post. Thank you for calling me out on my sloppy reporting. The “bomb” design was fantastically stupid in principle, and the report that he loaded the car with a not-even-potentially-explosive (poop-based?) fertilizer still in the bags makes me wonder what the hell they’re teaching these guys at Al Qaeda camp.

@marindenver—Litlebritdifrnt was quite right. I just changed the post in response to her comment.

Sorry for the confusion. Litlebritdifrnt is totally on point and majestically correct here.

PS: Sorry, sorry, sorry for correcting the post before posting my comment announcing that I had corrected the post. marindenver called it exactly the way it looked, whilst I was bumbling around the back office.

They hate us for our freedom.

Thank you Strange, I may stop drinking heavily now.  Well maybe not.

Don’t stop on my account. I can’t stop, because I’m going for my ASBO certificate.

@Allan—Yeah, that just keeps gettin’ funnier every time I hear it. You wonder if wingers are really dumb enough to buy that shit.

No, wait—of course they are.

Strange - I have a cousin (the daughter of my great aunt) who is famous in the UK for being sent to prison for repeatedly violating an ASBO.  She was a 70 year old complete and utter nut job who just couldn’t help herself at screaming at her neighbors and in the end they sent her to the big house.  If she lived in the US she would be a teabagger.

Litlebritdifrnt, I’m ashamed to admit that I only became aware of the ASBO practice a couple of weeks ago, but I am now fully engaged in the history and folklore of ASBO, and keen to be written-up and presented with a framable citation.

Bless your cousin, and bless the land of my belligerent, shitfaced ancestors for producing such a colorful and useful designation!

I had to look ASBO up, and now I’m just full of terrible puns about not knowing my ass from my ASBO.

Constitution-Optional Conservativism

What a neat distillation of the whole wretched movement.

Nearly as useful as ASBO, though without the chic.

We don’t have official ASBO candidates, but we do have PINS; if Strange and Oblo are ASBO merit scholars, perhaps I can at least claim PINSmanship.

Strange - I have a cousin (the daughter of my great aunt) who is famous in the UK for being sent to prison for repeatedly violating an ASBO.  She was a 70 year old complete and utter nut job who just couldn’t help herself at screaming at her neighbors and in the end they sent her to the big house.  If she lived in the US she would be a teabagger.

Not whatshername, Forkner?

No her name is Jenny Smith

http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/618980.0 /?act=login

Comment by Litlebritdifrnt on 05/05/10 at 08:31 AM

“Jenny Smith” is a perfect name for the crazy woman in a penny dreadful. And somewhere, I’m sure there must be at least ten different men known as “ASBO Jack.”

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